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Offline stiff neck

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« on: January 24, 2005, 05:27:52 PM »
Anyone care to provide a pic of their O-ring on their hand guard?  Or provide a more detailed explination/direction for making one and using it?  

I've seen it mentioned a few times, but the details are lacking clarity.  How thick?  How wide?  Where does it go exactly?  What type of material works?  When I think of an O-ring I think of a solid round hard rubber piece like a ruber band but solid and tube-like instead of flat.  

Descriptions I've seen on the net seem to refer to a round flat piece of rubber, more like a gasket.  Please elaborate.  Thanks!

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« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2005, 06:06:24 PM »
I cut mine from the corner of my truck's floor mat. I trimmed it to fit the hole in the forend and used a 30-06 empty shell picked up off of the range as a punch to make a hole in the center of the shim for the barrel hanger stud. When I tried it the first time it was too thick so I shaved it down with my pocket knife. I adjusted it a little at a time until the thickness prevented the forend from contacting the barrel but not thick enough to bind the action when it opened and closed. And yes, it took a couple of shims ruined before I got it right. My floor mat is a good bit narrower on one side now. It also takes a little feel for how tight to torque the forend screw with a washer in place. The effect was quite dramatic on the groups the rifle shot. However, the real improvment was from polishing the bore with Flitz and a tight cloth patch.
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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2005, 06:06:34 PM »
Both are used.  Some just put an O-ring on the barrel lug.  Some cut a rubber washer, or two for something like an inner tube or such to fit the recess in the fore arm where the barrel lug fits, with a hole in it of couse to fit over the barrel lug.  Just something to isolate the barrel from the fore arm.  Some even have used paper washers.
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« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2005, 06:08:28 PM »
Also, I assume that you want to forearm to be free floating once the O-ring is in place?  Except for the O-ring of course.  

Anyone try a little bedding compound around the bolt area, with a rubber O-ring or gasket?  Or bedding the rear inch of the forarm so that it locks up when the action snaps shut?

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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2005, 06:19:23 PM »
The neoprene O-ring that I use measures 9/16"ODx 3/8"IDx3/32"thick, get em at TrueValue Hardware.
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2005, 03:40:54 AM »
The O-ring is put on the forend barrel lug and sandwiched between the lug and the forend when the forend attaching screw is tightened.
The objective is to space the forend away from the barrel, the problem with this solution is that when an O-ring is added between the barrel and forend it will cause the forend to be installed at a slight nose down angle because the forend shoe will fit onto the receiver the same, everything will be put into a bind as the forend attaching screw is tightened, also the O-ring is not a solid material and will allow the forend to move from side to side etc.
To remedy the the binding and nose down angle problems the forend shoe must be removed, the screw holes drilled larger ( to remove any foreign material put on the screws ) the holes must be filled with a wooden dowel and the shoe reinstalled onto the rear of the forend in a manner as to allow the forend to be installed in a position on the gun so as not to cause any binding and allow the forend to sit straight and true on the barrel, the forend assembly must be fit to the gun in a manner as to cause the forend shoe to fit slightly snug against the receiver, ( the only function of the forend shoe is to keep the barrel from falling off when the gun is broke open to load or remove a shell ). in any case the O-ring will still allow the forend to be moved. ( not good ).

The correct procedure for floating a barrel/forend assembly on a handi is to remove the forend from the gun, remove the forend shoe from the rear of the forend, wrap one layer of tape around the barrel at the position where the front of the forend contacts the barrel, another piece of tape on the barrel at a position about 1" ahead of the front of the receiver, coat the barrel with mold release, paste wax etc. so up epoxy will not stick to it, mix up some glass-bedding epoxy and put a dab in the barrel channel of the forend at the rear and in the lug recess, install the forend onto the barrel and tighten up the attaching screw, the tape will space the forend away from the barrel while the epoxy cures, after the bedding is cured remove the forend from the gun, remove the tape from the barrel, clean the barrel where the mold release was applied, the forend will now fit onto the barrel in a solid and true manner, the only part that will touch the barrel is the bedding contact points, the forend shoe must be repositioned and reinstalled onto the rear of the forend as mentioned before. Again the only function of the forend shoe is to keep the barrel attached to the gun when the action is opened, do not install the forend onto the gun in a manner as to push the shoe against the receiver tight, the forend shoe should fit against the receiver very slightly snug, do not use the forend to tighten up a loose action. The gun should lock up tight without a forend installed.
If the lock up is loose then their is a solution for that also but that is a whole nuther subject.

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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2005, 03:48:49 AM »
Quote from: riddleofsteel
I cut mine from the corner of my truck's floor mat. I trimmed it to fit the hole in the forend and used a 30-06 empty shell picked up off of the range as a punch to make a hole in the center of the shim for the barrel hanger stud. When I tried it the first time it was too thick so I shaved it down with my pocket knife. I adjusted it a little at a time until the thickness prevented the forend from contacting the barrel but not thick enough to bind the action when it opened and closed. And yes, it took a couple of shims ruined before I got it right. My floor mat is a good bit narrower on one side now. It also takes a little feel for how tight to torque the forend screw with a washer in place. The effect was quite dramatic on the groups the rifle shot. However, the real improvment was from polishing the bore with Flitz and a tight cloth patch.
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