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Offline BamBams

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« on: February 05, 2005, 04:24:26 PM »
9/11 Slur Prof Won't Apologize
Saturday, February 05, 2005

DENVER — A professor who likened World Trade Center victims to a notorious Nazi refused to apologize, but said his treatise was a "gut response" in his first public comments since the University of Colorado began a review that could lead to his dismissal.

"I don't believe I owe an apology," Ward Churchill said Friday on a televised interview.

He defended the essay in which compared those killed in the Sept. 11 attack to "little Eichmanns," a reference to Adolf Eichmann, who organized Nazi plans to exterminate European Jews. He said the victims were akin to U.S. military operations' collateral damage — or innocent civilians mistakenly killed by soldiers.

"I don't know if the people of 9/11 specifically wanted to kill everybody that was killed," he said in the interview. "It was just worth it to them in order to do whatever it was they decided it was necessary to do that bystanders be killed. And that essentially is the same mentality, the same rubric."

In an interview published Saturday in the Rocky Mountain News, Churchill added, "This was a gut response opinion speech written in about four hours. It's not completely reasoned and thought through."

Churchill said his speech had been misinterpreted. "They take, as is usually the case with propaganda, some kernel of truth to anchor, and then they go wild. I never said anything about 'justifying.' I never said anything about 'advocating.' I never called for the deaths of millions of Americans," he said.

The university's Board of Regents apologized to all Americans on Thursday, especially those targeted by the attacks.

The furor over Churchill's essay erupted last month after he was invited to speak at Hamilton College in Clinton, N.Y. Campus officials discovered that an essay and follow-up book by Churchill characterized the Sept. 11 attacks as a response to a long history of U.S. abuses abroad, particularly against indigenous peoples.

Churchill, who recently resigned as chairman of the ethnic studies department but remains a tenured professor, said he would sue if he were dismissed.
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« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2005, 07:12:12 AM »
Tho I have only read about this in this thread and there may be other info out there, I would have to agree that there is no cause for an apology as what he said appears to be true:

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"I don't know if the people of 9/11 specifically wanted to kill everybody that was killed," he said in the interview. "It was just worth it to them in order to do whatever it was they decided it was necessary to do that bystanders be killed. And that essentially is the same mentality, the same rubric."


Can't argue with the above statement.
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« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2005, 10:44:27 AM »
Num_1_Dad,
You don't think that there is a difference between killing thousands of civilians on purpose and killing a few civilians accidentally?  That's really cynical.   :shock:

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« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2005, 11:03:51 AM »
"It's not completely reasoned and thought through."

That's the understatement of theyear.   :-D

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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2005, 11:18:36 AM »
I can argue with that statement num_1_Dad (?). It's wrong and if you don't see it there is something wrong there also. I feel sorry for you and will pray for you....<><.... : :eek:
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« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2005, 01:59:22 AM »
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"It's not completely reasoned and thought through."

That's the understatement of theyear.   :-D


I get a queazy, sick feeling in the pit of my stomach whenever I her stories like this. To think professors like him are teaching our next generation of business and political leaders.  :P
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« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2005, 05:43:12 PM »
Num_ 1_ Dad;

   Would you feel differently if your... num_ 1_ child... were in the twin towers on 9/11 or dealing with the terrorists in Fallujah ?
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« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2005, 09:34:09 PM »
Those that differ have need to explain their thoughts/defense of their thoughts, I can not get a handle on one sentence thoughts.
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« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2005, 02:07:00 AM »
William;
 
   My one line question...and it was a question, not an accusation or badgering was in reference to num_1_dad who, if I read his post correctly, seemed to equate the deaths, collateral or otherwise ...as being fully as justified as deaths involved in removing a tyrant and a dictator who was a threat to the free world...
   perhaps I misunderstood and Num_1_dad can clarify...
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