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can .41 magnum shells be safely fired in a .405 winchester
« on: March 19, 2005, 02:22:35 PM »
can they be safely fired for plinking , or as an emergency back up if your in an situation of survival ????
i've heard that they're both .41 caliber

i forgot to mention , it's in a t/c encore rifle barrel
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« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2005, 06:06:57 PM »
I was always taught, if it is not intended for that gun, don't shoot it out of it.  In other words, only shot what the chamber calls for. JMHO.  :D
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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2005, 10:36:59 PM »
:D Wouldn't it be similar to using 38 special ammo in a 357 mag chamber or the 44 special in the 44 mag chamber? Or 38/357 in the 357 Max chamber? Or 44sp./44mag in the 445 super mag?
And if that reasoning works how about 45 Colt in a 454 Casull. Of course my reasoning doesn't always parallel fact. :roll:
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« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2005, 02:25:58 AM »
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:D Wouldn't it be similar to using 38 special ammo in a 357 mag chamber or the 44 special in the 44 mag chamber? Or 38/357 in the 357 Max chamber? Or 44sp./44mag in the 445 super mag?
And if that reasoning works how about 45 Colt in a 454 Casull. Of course my reasoning doesn't always parallel fact. :roll:


But the guns are chambered for both and state that it can be done.  :D
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« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2005, 03:21:34 AM »
Why would you carry extra ammo in the "wrong" caliber as emergency backup versus carrying extra proper ammo????

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« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2005, 05:37:38 AM »
i have a .41 magnum revolver , and a newly aquired .405 winchester barrel for my encore. now i wouldn't carry the wrong ammo but do take a backup side arm with me. the reason i asked is say you were on a desolate area hunting trip that went awry. and you've expended all of the .405 shells you have , the revolver isn't scoped for longer shots at supper ( say , 50 to 75 yards away ) , and all you have left is .41 mag ammo. would it work safely in the .405 barrel .

this was just a hypothetical question , to see if it would work , i know acuracy wouldn't be as up to par as it should be with the different ammo .

i know i've heard of them doing this in the old west , with rifle and pistol , just in the same cartridge .
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« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2005, 03:50:35 PM »
It would be a terrible idea and possibly unsafe.  The base diameter of a .405 chamber is about 0.465", and the diamater of a .41 Magnum case is 0.435", or a mismatch of 0.030".  That could be enough to allow the .41 case to rupture and vent gas back into the shooter's face.

Then there is the rim thickness issue - 0.073" for the .405 and 0.060" for the .41 Mag.  That's excess headspace which could also cause problems.  That's two reasons not to do it.  

For number three: if the case did not seal the chamber - and with the large radial gap it may not - the bullet could get lodged in the barrel, rendering the riflle a fancy club.  Just generally a bad idea, but I suppose someone would do it regardless of anyone else's recommendations.   :roll: