Author Topic: .460 Rowland for last ditch effort (Read 986 times)

KW · « **on:** October 21, 2004, 08:16:07 PM »

I know this topic has been discussed before, but I am planning on hunting Brown Bear in a couple of years (with either a muzzleloader or single shot rifle). So like all paranoid people I like to cover my basics. I agree the best backup gun for these bruins is the rifle you're hunting with and I also agree that a back up handgun is to fight your way to that said rifle, but here is my dilemma. I can't shoot a revolver (SA or DA) to save my life (no pun intended). Seriously though putting a revovler in my hand is very dangerous, the bear would be complete safe. So I shoot a 1911 all the time and am very effective and comfortable with it. The .45 ACP is a far cry for a bear round, but has anyone have any experience using the .460 Rowland? It's a .45 ACP round that gets 44 mag velocities and it can be used with a conversion system in my 1911. Thanks for the input. Shoot safe. KW

Daveinthebush · « **Reply #1 on:** October 23, 2004, 07:45:29 AM »

I took the time to research the .460 and yes it is an impressive round. Equal to the .44 mag without a doubt. But, it would be a custom gun with custom ammunition and not available to the average person that reloads.

A little cheaper, and only requiring a stiffer spring might be to buy some +P brass from Starline and loading the .45 ACP hotter.

You would think that through the years something besides Desert Eagle would be available in .44 mag.

The ideal solution is to just stay out of the bears way.

dabigmoose · « **Reply #2 on:** October 23, 2004, 08:29:27 PM »

Hi dave
There is something in a auto better and has taken some record book
Brownies for a handgun. The Grizzly Arms 45 win mag and it is available
in 44 mag and 50 cal among some others. It is based on a oversized 1911
frame and action very accurate and excellent quality. Many a bow
hunter I have seen use them.
dabigmoose

Dusty Miller · « **Reply #3 on:** October 24, 2004, 06:53:47 PM »

I've never seen a semi-auto hand gun of ANY caliber that I'd feel safe using against critters that would have ya fer lunch.

Daveinthebush · « **Reply #4 on:** October 24, 2004, 07:27:52 PM »

I still want to take a brownie with the bow. How about a handgun that shoots 12 gauge slugs! :lol:

That .500 S&W is looking good.

dabigmoose · « **Reply #5 on:** October 24, 2004, 11:19:09 PM »

Quote from: Dusty Miller

I've never seen a semi-auto hand gun of ANY caliber that I'd feel safe using against critters that would have ya fer lunch.

Hi Dusty
I am a true believer in the tried and true revolver my self but
i have seen them killed with autos within 15 yards.The ones
i saw were head shots and were shot twice for good measure.
But really didn't need it these were bow hunters changing their minds when the bear winded them.They were also being backed up with
a Rifle.
Well as for the 460 Rowland its better than no gun at all if a person wants to pack it on them at all the times and doesn't go gettin cocky because they have a handgun and think they wont need that rifle .Remember use common since. The Elements of the weather are more likely to get ya than the Bear!! (But it does happen.) ITs like a CCW the day ya leave it at home and Bam ya need it.
Dabigmoose

S.B. · « **Reply #6 on:** October 29, 2004, 04:44:13 PM »

If your saying that you do fine with semi autos, why not get a Desert Eagle in .44 mag.?

dabigmoose · « **Reply #7 on:** October 29, 2004, 06:20:07 PM »

S.B
The desert eagle is like carrying a boat anchor and is not quick to get out of a holster if needed. But it has been used by a bow hunter to
kill a brown bear that was on top of him a a few years back.
dabigmoose

S.B. · « **Reply #8 on:** October 30, 2004, 03:20:29 AM »

moose, I agree but, it would be better than carrying something the owner couldn't hit anything with. The desert eagle and guns like the Ruger Super Red Hawk are a lot a like, in my opinion. Far too big and heavy for daily carry tasks.

Thebear_78 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 22, 2005, 08:01:52 PM »

From what I have seen of the 460 rowland it is still fairly limited in bullet selection. While much better than nothing I would still feel better with a heavy cast load out of a 45 colt or 44 mag. I have the same problem, I am much more comfortable with the 1911 platform and have a lot more experience shooting it. Used to do a lot of pin shooting with a custom 1911 10mm. I just bit the bullet and practiced a lot with my 4" 629. Start out with lighter loads and work your way up. It will take a lot of practice to become familiear with it but in the end I think its probably worth it. One thing that will help is to get a good trigger job and action job on it. The crisper and smoother the action the easier it will be to get used to a double action trigger pull after being spoiled by the 1911 single action triggers. Its hard to beat a good compact revolver in a chest holster for a backup sidearm for bowhunting or fishing.