Author Topic: My first take on Omegas (Read 1336 times)

S.B. · « **on:** February 14, 2005, 12:21:00 PM »

Took the new Omega to the range for the first time today. Could feel something in the area talked about (crud ring) before on this forum but didn't have any trouble loading rounds. I did use the same method I've always used, swab the bore with a patch coated with bore butter. Had to pry primer out with pocket knife, till after maybe 4 rounds after that they pulled out with just my finger nail(break in?). Worse probem I had and could see before I got to the range was the trigger guard set up. My trigger finger now is missing skin on the bottom from the trigger coming back and pinching it inside the very small area in the trigger guard (poor design, in my opinion). The engineers at Thompson Center need to earn thier pay a little more and redisign this thing? Accuracy was very exceptable, I used lead maxi hunter bullets and CCI primers with Pyrodex. If they can ever come up with a improved trigger guard/trigger design, this rifle will probably have a future? My accuracy began falling off when the finger started bleeding from the harsh pinching so, I pack her up and went home, to heal.

AndyHass · « **Reply #1 on:** February 14, 2005, 02:23:27 PM »

Did you just hurt your finger the first time not knowing the trigger would come back?
It takes a little getting used to, and I'd like to be able to fit my gloved finger into the trigger guard before cocking while hunting (I'd hate to have it go off while I'm trying to get my finger in there). However I got used to it quickly and had no inconvenience during deer season.
Either way, until recently they couldn't make the rifles fast enough to keep up with demand so I'm sure it has a future

I'd like to see them change that trigger and put an adjustable system on it while they're at it.

S.B. · « **Reply #2 on:** February 14, 2005, 04:29:26 PM »

Andy, my trigger breaks crisp and light enough, it's just that I can't get my finger in the guard until I'm at full cocked position. The way it's designed, the trigger come so far forward that most of the guard is full of trigger. I'm with you on wanting to be able to get my finger in there if for no other reason than to let the trigger down easy, if the shot doesn't come to pass. I also like to finger the trigger during cocking, so to eliminate the clicks and not scare off the game during cocking. And no, it didn't just pinch me once, it was a wearing of my finger during the entire range session. I'm going to call Thompson Center tomorrow, and see if they can help, in any way. Safety is one thing but, this thing is over engineered. Did you experience the primers sticking for a few rounds when you first got your rifle?

AndyHass · « **Reply #3 on:** February 14, 2005, 05:08:00 PM »

I didn't have a problem with primers sticking...in fact, it is the only 209 system I ever shot where the primers would fall out pretty easily.
Interesting...I'm just trying to picture how your finger was getting hurt in case I could be of help. I could see if you were trying to force it in there before you came to full cock...that's nearly impossible. Yup, I have the same wish list on the trigger as you. My pull is ok I just wish it was a couple lbs lighter.

S.B. · « **Reply #4 on:** February 14, 2005, 05:32:51 PM »

You could probably lower the pull weight by a little judicial honing. I must let the trigger up as soon as it let go. Then the finger is stuck in what there is of the front of the guard. I shoot a lot and constantly, but have never had a weapon that had as little room in the guard as these things.

S.B. · « **Reply #5 on:** February 15, 2005, 04:34:32 AM »

I called Thompson Center about the triggers in Omegas today and was told that if enough calls came in it would help in getting this improved. He told me that my complaint about not having room inside the trigger guard is known by them but, engneering must hear enough of this to get the ball rolling? I suppose the squeaky wheel gets the grease? The number is (603)332-2333, for any interested?

Wolfhound · « **Reply #6 on:** February 15, 2005, 06:15:57 AM »

I've got one and I've never had any issue with it. I just don't release the trigger right away. You know sqeeze the trigger? :wink:

S.B. · « **Reply #7 on:** February 15, 2005, 06:47:52 AM »

Quote from: Wolfhound

I've got one and I've never had any issue with it. I just don't release the trigger right away. You know sqeeze the trigger? :wink:

Mr. White,
Yes, I'm not unfamiliar with marksmanship techniques. I've competed in my share of archery, rifle, shotgun and handgun compititions. I don't know about Perry Il. but here in Livingston county, it's cold and usually wet during the three days of M/L season. Gloves are a must unless you plan on spending most of your time under some sort of cover. You must have exceptionally small hands to be able to get a good purchase on the trigger with gloves on. If the Omegas were designed for hunting and I'm sure they were, they need to enlarge the trigger guard (bow) area and or change the angle of the trigger in them, in my opinion. I know some here love these just as T/C builds them but, I'm not completely satisfied with the design of these. Trigger set up are definately not ergonomical.

Wolfhound · « **Reply #8 on:** February 15, 2005, 10:49:01 AM »

I used mine extensively this year and did wear gloves. 2 pairs of thin gloves (all I ever use) and never had a problem. My hands aren't small either. I just don't see what the big deal is.

S.B. · « **Reply #9 on:** February 15, 2005, 11:04:15 AM »

Mr. White,
I think if you'll reread all my posts on this subject I mentioned that the views I state are my opinion. I didn't mean to suggest that everyone else agree, just venting my frustration with a product that evidently you're very happy with. Seems like a no win situation so, I quit posting on it. Still, it seem odd that when I called T/C they told me that I wasn't the first or only one to complain about this.

Wolfhound · « **Reply #10 on:** February 15, 2005, 12:59:20 PM »

I've heard it before too, but my point is that you want your ML to fit you right? The Omega isn't the only one out there. If the trigger gaurd is too small for you get a ML with a bigger trigger gaurd. I just never have had a problem with mine. Now if I can get them to make the hammer a little rougher, that would be nice. I almost shot the gun when the hammer slipped on my glove during first season. :oops:

brramer · « **Reply #11 on:** March 02, 2005, 03:57:00 PM »

Just a thought here. When I hunt with a shotgun I jam my whole finger in the trigger guard and start pulling the trigger. When I hunt big game with a muzzleloader or rifle I put the tip of my finger on the trigger. I want to feel that trigger when I gently squeeze. I think gloves take away from your accuracy because you can't feel the trigger as good. I like fingerless gloves.

Just my 2 cents

Bruce

AndyHass · « **Reply #12 on:** March 04, 2005, 08:38:09 AM »

Shooting bare-fingered is my preference too...but you're from Michigan too so I'm sure you know how impossible it can be to go through the season with no or light gloves on.
Usually I'm hunting wind-blown open fields, so I wear heavy gloves. Since it's so open I usually see deer coming and have time to rip the right glove off as I set up the shot. However I had a few quick encounters with the Omega where the gloves could not come off. One resulted in a kill...I had to remove my hand from the glove, then re-cock the gun to extract my glove, which was caught in the guard by the finger!