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The Pledge: Exposing The Anti-Gun Pledge
« on: February 17, 2005, 03:45:51 AM »
The Pledge: Exposing The Anti-Gun Pledge

Researched, compiled & written by Neal & Melissa Seaman


The Pledge Resolution S.R.282 (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?r104:S24JY6-783:) MUST BE RESCINDED. Our tax dollars are paying for a program that is subverting our children against guns, the Second Amendment, and their right to have an avenue to use self defense. The Pledge Resolution is based on a fallacy and a "health model of violence" and a non existent problem.

On 10/27/04, "LMS students sign anti-gun Pledge" (http://zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=13252091) which took place at the Loris Middle School in Loris, South Carolina. This report exposes the anti-gun/anti-rights agenda of the Pledge used to brainwash our children.

Children across America are being used as pawns for anti-gun groups. Since 1996, 10 million American children have signed the Pledge (broken link).

Student Pledge Against Gun Violence
• I will never bring a gun to school;
• I will never use a gun to settle a dispute;
• I will use my influence with my friends to keep them from using guns to settle disputes;
• My individual choices and actions, when multiplied by those of young people throughout the country, will make a difference;
• Together, by honoring the Pledge, we can reverse the violence and grow up in safety.


http://www.deadbangguns.com/ThePledge/
They may talk of a "New Order" in the  world, but what they have in mind is only a revival of the oldest and worst tyranny.   No liberty, no religion, no hope.   It is an unholy alliance of power and pelf to dominate and to enslave the human race.

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« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2005, 09:43:15 AM »
I read the resolution and what bothers me the most is the fact that most of the examples of violence are from my state.  I see nothing inherently wrong with asking kids not to bring guns to school.  I am an NRA member and I have kids (11 and 9).  My kids are well versed in firearms handling as well as shooting and marksmanship.  They have been taught gun safety and respect by me.  They will be gun owners.  We love shooting together (as a matter of fact, I have a new .223 on order for my 11 Y.O.).  I keep my guns locked up in a safe in my basement (started that when my kids were born).  That being said, I wouldn't have a problem with my kids promising not to solve verbal disputes with a weapon.  They know enough to shoot.... if being shot at.  I am staunchly behind and defend the 2nd Amend. but I fail to see the anti agenda in this 5 line pledge.  I'm sure we all agree that we would like our kids grow up safe.  I didn't see anything in it that says guns are bad.....did I miss something?  The kids used in the examples have no respect for law.  I don't care how many kids sign that ridiculous pledge, as long as there are those who go untaught, have parents who don't give a damn and a society where bad deeds go unpunished.....it don't mean a thing.  Besides, most kids can't remember their spelling words a week later,  most won't  even remember they signed the stupid thing a month later.  Just my :money:
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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2005, 10:55:02 AM »
I believe that the primary concern is that the public schools and the organizations that contribute to this curriculum are utilizing a course of instruction which endorses a distorted and biased view of guns and anti-2A views, and which purposefully denigrate self-defense and promote anti-American ideas by using globalist models that supersede parental and individualist thinking.

The pledge is essentially the affirmation of student mastery of the ideals promoted during the course of instruction.

At least that's what I got out of the report.
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« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2005, 12:24:18 PM »
My only complaint is, why are any schools even involved in this?  This is a home / family affair!  If students aren't learning about proper use of guns at home, it's too late for schools to fix it.  If kids ARE taught gun safety at home, they won't be gullible to indoctrination.  There's nothing like a day at the range with Pa or Granpa shooting .22's to counter what might be "taught" at school.   8)

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« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2005, 04:39:14 PM »
I think the wording should be change to:

• I will never bring a weapon to school;
• I will never use violence to settle a dispute, unless physically attacked;
• I will use my influence with my friends to keep them from using
   violence  to settle disputes;
• My individual choices and actions, when multiplied by those of
   young people throughout the country, can make a difference;
• Together, by honoring the Pledge and accepting responcibility for our
   actions, we can reverse the violence and grow up in a safer freer
   society.

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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2005, 01:28:52 AM »
I believe Shorty's right, this shouldn't even be an issue in school. But, if its gonna be, I think Jon's rewrite is much more appropriate and actually has more substance.  I'm only looking at this issue from my little world, I'm not what you'd call a "global" thinker.  But, I can see how some kids who are not exposed to firearms AND proper parental guidence could take this as an affront to firearms, ie: guns are bad.  That's definately not the case in our household.  I'm gonna look into this issue some more, because in the state I live in, the liberals love this kind of stuff.  NJ state motto:  If its bad for guns, its good for New Jersey!!
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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2005, 04:32:28 PM »
Think we need only one more "National Day of.....".

"National Day of Recall"

On this day we would all vote to determine which is the stupidest congressman or senator.  Then once that is ascertained they would have to leave office forever!

Just think how this would send shivers down the spine of Kennedy, Feinstein and Clinton.  They wouldn't know for sure which one would be first. Even second place would have a whole year to worry!
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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2005, 05:53:17 PM »
Quote from: RaySendero
Think we need only one more "National Day of.....".

"National Day of Recall"

On this day we would all vote to determine which is the stupidest congressman or senator.  Then once that is ascertained they would have to leave office forever!

Just think how this would send shivers down the spine of Kennedy, Feinstein and Clinton.  They wouldn't know for sure which one would be first. Even second place would have a whole year to worry!


I have often entertained an idea similar to this.

I call it "The Constitutent Approval Rating".

One day each year during a legislator's/executive's/judge's term of office, the official in question is to report to, and stand exposed in the town square for the duration of an entire day.

Positioned at multiple points around the square will be piles of stones in a variety of sizes and weights, to be determined by the ability of any citizen at large to pick up a stone and hurl it with force at their desired target.

The constituent citizens of the official's service district may come to the square and cast any number of stones that they might desire at the official, striking him/her without fear of repercusions of any kind.

By this method, it may be effectively determined how well any politician is perfoming his or her job, and whether the people that the official is serving, believe that the character of service is sufficient.

At the end of the day, any official who can still function may return to their job and continue to serve.

Those officials will receive an "approved" rating for that year.
They may talk of a "New Order" in the  world, but what they have in mind is only a revival of the oldest and worst tyranny.   No liberty, no religion, no hope.   It is an unholy alliance of power and pelf to dominate and to enslave the human race.