I terrible I know, I was in a pawn shop yesterday,and low and behold there was a rifle that caught my eye. The bad thing about it was it was not a Handi,it was a Marlin 444S with the barrel cut back to 16.25",a homemade guide gun. It had a $189 price tag on it,and I was having a very weak moment at the time.So I asked what he would take for it out the door,and he replied $180. So now I have 2 444's , 445,44mag,and a 45 70. The other bad thing is ,I shot it today and it shoots very good,so I'll probably have to keep it to. :roll: :roll: Digger