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Offline ratherbefishin

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« on: February 18, 2005, 06:51:36 AM »
with the large populations of deer in urban areas,you just might not want to advertise to everyone within a mile you are shooting, and given the fact that a lot of woodlot hunting is within 40 to 50 yards, what sort of cartridge and load would you pick for lethal but downloaded hunting[along the lines of the .300 whisper]Would a subsonic 44 magnum do the job if you confined yourself to short range neck shots?

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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2005, 07:59:20 AM »
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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2005, 12:42:44 PM »
Actually from what I've read the opposite is true. acording to Paco Kelly over on leverguns.com a .44 mag + a long barrel+ a heavy bullet+ a light charge of bullseye = an almost silent load.

  I have the 320 grain bullets to work these loads up but just haven't had the time. Maybe tomorrow.

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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2005, 01:23:04 PM »
Do fine for shoulder and rib shots, too. Lord knows enough game has been killed with .44 Special and .45 Colt pistols.

My personal pick would be the .45-70 BC with a pure lead bullet around 300-350 grains backed by 10 grains of Unique. That's fairly quiet from my Handis and 10" more barrel should quiet it considerably.

An old poacher once told me, "It's that second shot that gets you locked up." His belief was that people don't really register the first shot unless it is real loud and real close. It's just a distant noise and only enough to get them listening. No more shots and they forget about it. Shoot again and they run for the telephone.

It's something worth considered. There are many places where it is legal to hunt NOW, but it won't be legal if there are complaints.
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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2005, 02:31:53 PM »
With subsonic loads I wold look instead to head shots. I have several loads that would be perfect for that kind of shooting. I prefer headshots to neck shots, as the neck depends totally on hitting the spine. While a deers brain is no big target itself, it does offer some sure signe of where it is. A seer quartering toward, put the shot between the near side eye and ear. Quartering away, the reverse of that shot. going dead away, the union of the skull and the neck, facing dead on, right through the juction of the snout and the skull, commonly called between the eyes, but just a tad low of the eyes horizontal centerline. It is a small target, a miss will generally be a clean miss and the 44 is certainly capable of the required accuracy, and it can be made quite. My neighbors don't complain about a load using 11.5 grians of Blue Dot which makes 1275 fps. Down in a hollow, my neighbors generally don't even know I've shot.

I normally only shoot for the lungs, things happen quickly in the woods, head shots require enough motionless time for very solid target aquisition and sight alignment, even a scope requires time to settle on a 1" diameter target.

All that said, at 25 yards and less, lung shots with heavy bullets at pistol velocities will perform quite well too. I've taken a lot of deer at that range.
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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2005, 04:32:03 AM »
yes, a head shot right back of the eye  with even a 22 lr will drop a buck dead in his tracks.The indians do it all the time.