DaveH, I don't think the 20 gauge TDC's are available yet and they may not be for at least another month or 2. The TDC's in 12 gauge are available now, I picked one up a week or so ago from the Local Wal Mart (I ordered it) but it came with smooth stocks, not checkered as are advertised in the 2005 catalog. I checked with H&R and they told me it must be a 2004 gun (HU serial # so they are correct) and that the 2005 TDCs have the checkered stocks. I am looking for a checkered set for it instead of the smooth walnut stocks....If you do order one and want checkered stocks instead of smooth be sure to specify that, the distributor may have both on hand and be trying to move the 2004 model year guns before selling the 2005 model, of course some may prefer the smooth stocks, I myself have other plans for mine and want the checkered....<><.... :grin: