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Offline Drilling Man

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« on: February 09, 2005, 10:41:51 AM »
Hi all,

  I thought i'd post some picts i took today of my drilling.  It's a Krieghoff 16x16-8x5jrs..  It was made in October of 1935, and was rebuilt in the early 80's after i bought it.

  I heard about it from a good friend of mine who told me "his mother in laws neighbor has something like i was looking for!!"  The neighbor  took it out of a castle while in WW11, and once getting it back to the states left it in his mothers barn for many years in northern Califorinia.  He said he had shot some squirells with it, and also one deer with the only box of 8x57 ammo he had bought.  He didn't shoot the rifle much, because he didn't like picking the rimless 8x57's out of the "rimmed" chamber!!

  Anyway, it's a keeper for me, and i'd like to share it with you by the way of a few pictures...

  Drilling Man





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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2005, 11:03:39 AM »
Beautiful gun Drillings Man, I envy you. That is excellent !!!!!! Certainly don't see them like that anymore.
 Sincerely,
 Garry
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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2005, 01:38:08 AM »
Lucky you ! This Krieghof although a basic model, is worth a few thousands bucks !

I own a Merkel 12 12 8X57JRS.

The 8x57JRS is a good cartridge and very common in Europe for drilling, double rifle and other combination guns.

It is the rimmed version of the military 8X57JS.

You have to make sure yours is the S bullet size (most probably but ?), not the older one. It is marked on the barrel.
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2005, 03:08:25 PM »
Hi BoarHunter,

  I think it was the same day i got this drilling in the mail, i already had the chamber "cerosafed" (sp?) and knew "exactly" what i had  (.323" bore)....  I immediately made (formed) 20 cases, as i didn't have any 8x57 rimmed cases of any kind on hand!!

  The drilling came to me with the stock broken in 5 pieces, so it took me a couple days to make the needed pieces and "glass" it all back together.  Once done, within a week i had a good load worked up with 200 grain Nosler partitions, and was hunting!!!

  First big game animial i harvested for my freezer with it was a good sized bull moose at 150 yards.  It took two noslers in the ribs to anchor him permently, and that was the only big game animial that's ever taken more than one Nosler to put down!!

  To date i've harvested moose, bear, blk tailed deer, white tails, coyotes, havolina and much more!!  It's been a great hunting companion!!!

  Drilling Man
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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2005, 08:57:32 PM »
Congratulations !

8X57JRS is a common cartridge in Europe, hope you have no difficulties getting a few to avoid having to form brass.

In fact with the more potent 9.3X74 they are the standard for double and combination gun, used for anything to big wild boar and stag.

Loading is the 8X57JS minus 5-10% as the JRS is rated slightly less than the standard 8X57JS loading (not the US manufactured which are far less potent than the european one).

Be carefull that in a combination gun because of the thin barrels and soft solder used to assemble them you have to avoid solid bullet as it may lead to the soft solder to give up.

How about the smooth bore and slugs ? Did you manage to select one that hits close to the bullet ?
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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2005, 03:20:30 PM »
Hi there,

  I load 200 grain Nosler partitions to 2,350 fps, and they have worked very well for me for all my big game hunting.  I've loaded them faster, but 2,350 is enough and easier on the action.

  I have combination bbls in 9.3x74R and also double rifle sets for my Valmet.  I also designed an "improved" 9.3x74R too.  Of course the case holds more power, so that = higher velocity,  

  I use to swage a pretty good bonded core bullet in 9.3 out of type L copper tubeing, but quit that long ago.  I sold a lot of them, and guys really liked them on big game.

  As for slugs, as i remember, it's pretty good out to about 40 yards or so, but i never use slugs.   I had choke tubes put in the shot bbls, so i can probable change chokes and get it tuned in with slugs if i tried...

  Remington slugs go 1570 fps, while Winchesters go 1494 fps, so i always bought and carry Rem., if i carry any of them at all.  I don't see in my notes how fast Breneke's go????   I do have some of them around, i should chronograph them  :>)))

  Robert
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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2005, 08:20:44 PM »
The problem with combo gun is to find the right slug that will shoot close to where the bullet hits.

In Europe many use combo gun as an alternative to double gun. At close range you shoot the slug, and you can follow with the bullet.

Also if you are allowed to, buckshot can be used.
 
It is mainly for drive hunting though not stalking.
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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2005, 03:09:07 PM »
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Hi BoarHunter,

  I think it was the same day i got this drilling in the mail, i already had the chamber "cerosafed" (sp?) and knew "exactly" what i had  (.323" bore)....  I immediately made (formed) 20 cases, as i didn't have any 8x57 rimmed cases of any kind on hand!!

 
  To date i've harvested moose, bear, blk tailed deer, white tails, coyotes, havolina and much more!!  It's been a great hunting companion!!!

  Drilling Man


 When you formed those 8x57JRS cases, what did you form them from?    :?:
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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2005, 04:20:42 PM »
Doug,

  I believe i made them out of RWS 7x65R cases.  Once i was sure the drilling was going to be mine, i bought up a bunch of RWS 8x57 jrs brass..  

  All of the RWS brass that i've bought has been very good quality and long lasting.

  Drilling Man
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