Author Topic: long range questions (Read 687 times)

mjbgalt · « **on:** April 22, 2005, 12:56:38 PM »

ok...i havent been in the world of long range varminting very long, just added it to my hunting resume a year or two ago...

so...

i have a .204 encore. the box of hornady 32 grain i have sitting in front of me says it drops 13 inches at 400 yards. but is it worth a damn at 400? can i shoot a coyote at 400 and have it crumple? i know groundhogs and prarie dogs are meat at that range but just how potent is it at that point?

-Matt

quickdtoo · « **Reply #1 on:** April 22, 2005, 01:12:40 PM »

Matt, here are about 8 pages on the subject...more or less.

http://www.predatormastersforums.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=52105004&page=&fpart=1&vc=1

mjbgalt · « **Reply #2 on:** April 22, 2005, 01:42:50 PM »

thanks quick....

that was....quick :wink:

-Matt

Catfish · « **Reply #3 on:** April 23, 2005, 10:28:47 AM »

Matt,
You can cripple a coyote at 4 yrds. with a .458 Win. Mag. with a poor hit, or you could kill one a 800 yrds with a .204 with a good hit. Bullet placement is key. :wink:

mjbgalt · « **Reply #4 on:** April 23, 2005, 10:35:03 AM »

i know what youre saying and its a valid point, but what i wanted to know was along the lines of whats typically the max for this load.

i can pretty much put 'em where i want 'em, i got started right with a red ryder that i wore out...i estimated once that i shot roughly 300,000 BBs with it before it fell apart.

then i moved up to shotguns and .22s and put in my time there as well.

so it isnt a matter of IF i can hit em, just IF i SHOULD.

-Matt

Lawdog · « **Reply #5 on:** April 23, 2005, 11:48:36 PM »

Quote from: mjbgalt

ok...i havent been in the world of long range varminting very long, just added it to my hunting resume a year or two ago...

so...

i have a .204 encore. the box of hornady 32 grain i have sitting in front of me says it drops 13 inches at 400 yards. but is it worth a damn at 400? can i shoot a coyote at 400 and have it crumple? i know groundhogs and prarie dogs are meat at that range but just how potent is it at that point?

-Matt

Coyotes can/are a tough customer and I wouldn't depend on the little 32 gr. .204 caliber bullet to cleanly/humanly/consistently take a Coyote at 400 yards. The .204 may be a great Coyote cartridge within its range but I dont believe its range includes targets at 400 yards. I have seen bigger cartridges fail to cleanly take Coyotes at that yardage. Lawdog

Reed1911 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 24, 2005, 02:48:31 AM »

I have to agree with Lawdog. In my very limited experience with 'yotes even at 400yds they often don't stand still for a very long period of time. At least not long enough for one to accurately judge the distance, dope the wind, make scope adjustments, draw a bead and squeeze. Really I think the limitation will be on the shooters part, the 32g and 40g .204 still has a significant amount of energy at 400yds to kill a 'yote, but the shot would need to be a very clean heart or lung to drop it.

mjbgalt · « **Reply #7 on:** April 24, 2005, 04:09:58 AM »

thats why i asked, to me it looks like the ballistics show a definitely high-enough foot-poundage and velocity to take one down at that range but those dont always equate in real life and in practice.

-Matt