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Offline DakotaElkSlayer

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« on: March 06, 2005, 12:45:06 PM »
I would love to get your input on choosing between two rifles.  First off, right now I own a NEF .280Rem and an 1895GS.  The two rifles I am trying to decide between is the CZ 550 FS in 6.5x55 and the Remington 7600 in .35 Whelen.  I absolutely love the mannlicher-style stock on the CZ, and I have always wanted to own a .35 Whelen.  I now live in North Dakota, but should be moving west in the next year.  So, what do you guys think?  Don't say "buy them both" since I am MARRIED! :?

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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2005, 01:00:50 PM »
No wonder you're torn. That model of CZ is really nice.
I suppose the question you should really be asking yourself is "What do I need this new rifle for?"
The 280 Rem is as good as a .270 and will look after all your deer hunting although it does restrict you in terms of follow up shots.
The 1895GS I presume is a 30-30 so that's a great short range cartridge.
So what do you intend to hunt with this?
Small to medium game that may require follow up shots over a longer distance is suitable for the 6.5.
On the other hand if you want a strong medium cal for elk or big deer the Whelen is your choice.
Does that help?
The truth is that the 280 or 30-30 are quite capable of both those tasks.
But I can see why you might want something a bit different.
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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2005, 05:02:48 PM »
Kombi,
That 1895 is not a 30/30, but the mighty .45-70!  Ya, the .280 is kinda' the problem since it can handle nearly everything over here...took a big 6x6 bull elk with it in 2000.

Jim
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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2005, 05:37:31 PM »
That CZ is one fine rifle. And I would pass on the pump. I think the Whelen does best in a bolt action, and you already have a good timber gun in that 1895.
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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2005, 07:53:34 PM »
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Kombi,
That 1895 is not a 30/30, but the mighty .45-70!  Ya, the .280 is kinda' the problem since it can handle nearly everything over here...took a big 6x6 bull elk with it in 2000.
Jim

Forget the Whelen then.
Go the CZ with the fullwood stock in 6.5 Swede.
You may well find yourself leaving the .280 at home.
BTW, how good is the .280?
I presume you have the model with the 26" barrel.
I've been seriously considering saving up for one myself since it looks so good on paper.
It'd sit nicely between my Enfield 25/303 and my 98 Mauser 8x57JS.
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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2005, 07:19:45 AM »
Kombi,
That cheap NEF .280 Handi-rifle is simply amazing for a $200 rifle(cost me the extra $$$ for the fancy camo laminate limited edition stock).  I shot every available ammo for it and they all shot well; biggest group was about 1.5 inches and that is with that super heavy trigger pull that the rifle came with from the factory(factory will lower to 3lbs. or so if you send the receiver back).  Get the trigger down to a 2.3-3lbs. and we are talking a much smaller group.  Settled on 139gr. Hornady Light Mags for the extra flatness.  Not much recoil from any loads since the gun with the 26" barrel isn't the lightest thing on the planet.  Check out the NEF rifle forum and you can see how accurate these cheapies are.

Jim
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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2005, 12:53:20 PM »
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BTW, how good is the .280?

I never wanted one, because I couldn't see any improvement over my .30-06's, but here is a quote from Jack O'Conner about the .280, from The Rifle Book, third edition...
"It has been no raging success because it is so much like the .270."
Coming from Jack, that is a huge compliment!
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Go for the 6.5x55 CZ
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2005, 02:45:33 AM »
The 6.5x55 is a fine round.  You can get bullets as light as 85grains for varmint hunting and as heavy as 160 for big deer or Elk.  I have a 260 Remington which is roughly 6.5x52 (in metric terms).  The 120 - 140 grain bullets are excellent for deer hunting.  The 6.5mm bullets have excellent Sectional Density when compared to many other rounds.  This basically means that they are long in relation to diameter and penetrate well.

You'll get yourself a light kicking rifle that will handle jack rabbits to elk.  The 6.5x55 is a very popular round in Scandavia used for Moose/Carribou hunting.

The only difference between the 260Rem and the 6.5x55 is that the 6.5x55 is factory loaded to slightly lower pressures due to some very old rifles chambered in that round - like Swedish k98 Mausers.
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« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2005, 01:00:02 PM »
I would have to go with the CZ
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Re: Go for the 6.5x55 CZ
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2005, 01:40:46 PM »
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The only difference between the 260Rem and the 6.5x55 is that the 6.5x55 is factory loaded to slightly lower pressures due to some very old rifles chambered in that round - like Swedish k98 Mausers.

Do you mean the M96 and M38 Mausers?
The k98s were the general issue German rifle and all were in 8x57JS I believe.
I think the only Swedish k98s were a small number rechambered to the rare cartridge 8x63, which performs much like a 8mm-06.
And even if a k98 were chambered to 6.5x55 it'd easily stand up to the maximum pressure, as will the M96 and M38 unless they've really been abused.
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« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2005, 09:01:36 AM »
Like the others have already said, go with the 6.5mm Swede.  Lawdog
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