Author Topic: Air Silhouette Sporter Class Rifles? (Read 1189 times)

Slowstdy · « **on:** March 18, 2005, 08:51:55 AM »

Now that the Air silhouette sporter class has opened up to include PCP guns, what is a good PCP gun for that class? I am at present shooting a AA Pro-sport, I don even know if that is a legal sporter gun. You can see a picture at.
http://www.straightshooters.com/airarms/aaprosport.html
I am looking at the Theoben Rapid 12 as a posibable replacement, but the stock is pretty unique, is it sporter class? You can see a picture at
http://www.straightshooters.com/theoben/thrapid12.html
I hope someone can help me or point me in the right direction.
Thanks Dave Cjavascript:emoticon(':eek:')

nomad · « **Reply #1 on:** March 18, 2005, 01:50:25 PM »

Right now, AFAIK anything that isn't marketed as a target (or field target) gun is a sporter. (The worm can that the committee opened up isn't very specific.)

IMO both rifles you pointed out are legal sporters -- assuming that you can make the weight limit all up.

I don't know what will shake out as the 'best' sporter under the new rules -- but the Walther Hunter should probably be looked at by anyone ready to spend the kind of money that's being asked for the Theoben.

Airgun silhouette doesn't really demand 'repeater' capability. I don't know how much that feature adds to the Theoben pricing...

Slowstdy · « **Reply #2 on:** March 20, 2005, 01:33:26 PM »

Hi nomad
The only Walther Hunter i can find in the walter cataloge is the LG300 Hunter:
http://www.carl-walther.de/englisch/sport/sport-96.html
This to me looks more like a open class gun not a sporter. Any more ideas? What's the best way to find out which class a Gun fits in?
Cheers, Dave C

nomad · « **Reply #3 on:** March 20, 2005, 04:58:13 PM »

That rifle is being accepted as a sporter under this year's interpretation of the rules. (At least in Texas and California.) Walther advertises it as a Hunter -- not a target model -- and it makes weight. You know it 'looks like' an Open gun and I know it 'looks like' an Open gun but the rule as it stands allows any factory 'Sporter' -- and that has always been accepted to mean any rifle designed for field use...as opposed to those made for formal target (or 'Field Target') shooting. The LG300 Hunter qualifies under that interpretation.

Whether it will still be legal next year is anyone's guess!

The new rule is pretty liberal. Basically, it has created two Open classes...an 11 pound Open class -- that used to be 'Sporter' class -- and a 16 pound Open class that remains as it was.

I don't see how NRA can disallow the LG300 Hunter -- and neither does any other airgun match director with whom I've spoken. If you know of a match director who is not permitting it, please advise me as I'd like to know what criteria he's using to do that.

Hornetx60 · « **Reply #4 on:** March 20, 2005, 11:43:49 PM »

I know that S&W is the Importer , but do you know of any air gun dealers carrying the lg300? How much are these going for.

genphideaux · « **Reply #5 on:** March 21, 2005, 02:19:56 AM »

Hornetx60,

Champion's Choice, around $1400.00

see ya in jacksonville

Dawg

Hornetx60 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 21, 2005, 11:01:56 AM »

Any one know of anyone else selling Walther's? Champions Choice sold their last one today to my buddy and it will be a month until they get their shipment. Thanks

nomad · « **Reply #7 on:** March 21, 2005, 12:27:42 PM »

Last time that I spoke with Neal Stepp at ISS in Ft Worth, he had them on order and, I 'think' had shipping confirmation. Whether they've cleared customs and arrived in the shop I don't know. 817-595-2090

Slowstdy · « **Reply #8 on:** March 21, 2005, 12:56:38 PM »

Hi nomad
Thanks for your help, I ordered mine to day, should be with me by the end of the week, I will let you know how it works out. I did speak to Greg Conner today and he confirmed basically what you were saying about 2 open classes. If the Walther works out I might even shoot it in the sporter and the open classes. If you are going to Winnsboro Ill buy you drink. Im the one with the accent. Yall know it when you hear it.
Cheers Dave C
Sorry Bill. Ill let you hold mine.LOL javascript:emoticon(':D')

Slowstdy · « **Reply #9 on:** March 21, 2005, 01:07:56 PM »

Hi nomad
Thanks for your help, I ordered mine to day, should be with me by the end of the week, I will let you know how it works out. I did speak to Greg Conner today and he confirmed basically what you were saying about 2 open classes. If the Walther works out I might even shoot it in the sporter and the open classes. If you are going to Winnsboro Ill buy you drink. Im the one with the accent. Yall know it when you hear it.
Cheers Dave C
Sorry Bill. Ill let you hold mine.LOL javascript:emoticon(':D')

Hornetx60 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 21, 2005, 01:32:59 PM »

Since I'm Driving, it sure will be a shame for you to not make it to the range and me be there shooting your gun. Thats all right cuz I'm just gonna sick the "Dawg" on ya as soon as we get there.
Don't make me tell these fellas what you did this weekend with that beutiful Open class AZ LG 100 Steyr ...you sandbagger AAA my butt...LOL

Hornetx60 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 21, 2005, 01:34:51 PM »

Thanks for the Info Nomad

nomad · « **Reply #12 on:** March 21, 2005, 02:32:29 PM »

Glad to help. (Hopefully both of you!)

Slo -- wondering about the 'accent'? (I'm from Bucks county PA originally. If it's that accent, I'm used to it!)
Also, when you offered to buy a drink, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt (remember that I'm a transplanted yankee from right down the road) that you weren't aware that Budweiser's one of the match sponsors and beer's FREE at Winnsboro AFTER the shooting is done for the day? :-D

Hornetx60 · « **Reply #13 on:** March 21, 2005, 03:28:58 PM »

Oh please let me help here.... its not an American accent that he speaks of....Its that Damned British accent....they think they speak english......Damned Brits just don't get it...How many times do they have to be beaten down....LOL ...Just ask him about the Boston Tea Party....

Slowstdy · « **Reply #14 on:** March 21, 2005, 04:17:47 PM »

nomad
Free Beer!!. I didnt know, in that case I will buy you 2!
The Boston Tea party is a very long story so I will save it until Winnsboro, besides I know how sensitive you are Bill, and I dont want to upset you again.
Your Driving ^&%$#.Only if you drive it like you stole itLOL Remember Like a Rock.He with the most tickets wins you have some catching up to do
Sorry nomad you have to excuse us. Bill once made a mistake, and said something nice about me, even after Thousands of $ of therapy, he still greaves over it.LOL
Cheers Dave (':oops:')

Hornetx60 · « **Reply #15 on:** March 21, 2005, 04:42:40 PM »

See ya take a guy under your wing and teach him everything ya know and this ...............is how he repays you...........Ah Grasshopper but you have much to learn !!!

genphideaux · « **Reply #16 on:** March 22, 2005, 01:54:45 AM »

Quote from: Hornetx60

See ya take a guy under your wing and teach him everything ya know and this ...............is how he repays you...........Ah Grasshopper but you have much to learn !!!

Everthing ya know, bet that was a quick two seconds.....LOL

went somthing like: twist top, bend elbow, buy us another one, repeat(practice makes perfect).......Oh I've done, I mean heard it a thousand times before.

Grasshopper but you have much to learn !!!, It is a simple game requiring constant attention your supplies, when to bet and wind conditions the next morning.

Dawg

Varn1808 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 22, 2005, 02:16:45 AM »

Dawg,
Careful on that betting thing. I was there and I still remember what happened at Jax last year with betting and all. Hornet accepts travelers checks too.

I'm hoping to make Jax again next year. I hate to miss the hotel parties with Mclemore and crew. Good luck in Jax!

ajj · « **Reply #18 on:** March 22, 2005, 02:34:50 AM »

Let me be sure I've got this straight. Some of you guys drink alcohol after these matches?

nomad · « **Reply #19 on:** March 22, 2005, 03:17:15 AM »

I've been wondering if a couple of stiff belts about 16 hours after Thursday's practice and the same thing following the Friday and Saturday proceedings might not help me ward off those debilitating match nerves?

genphideaux · « **Reply #20 on:** March 22, 2005, 05:44:15 AM »

Varn1808,

I guess I should have said who to bet with and when.

Dawg

Hornetx60 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 22, 2005, 11:24:37 AM »

Dawg, Now don't get me wrong. It didn't take very long to teach him my vast knowledge....3 maybe 4 minutes..... Oh and Mark was right I do accept travelers checks. Do I need to bring the trigger gauge again this year? :oops:

genphideaux · « **Reply #22 on:** March 23, 2005, 01:49:25 AM »

Hornetx60,

You did't get my check? I addressed it to Bill in PA, how many could there be in that yankee state, better investigate this.

Bring the trigger gauge, I'm just dumb enough to fall for that trick twice, you should be ashamed of yourself for picking on dumb animals and vern for backing you up, now masshole is a different story.

Dawg

Hornetx60 · « **Reply #23 on:** March 23, 2005, 12:20:45 PM »

Duckgumbo, My entry will be in the mail shortly along with my British friend. Now as for Varner...I think he is just to cowardly to come back down to Winnsboro...I don't know why he's so shy Hell he's gotten used to being beaten up here so having it done in another state shouldn't matter much......Lets see if him and Spicher have the nads to show up in Winnsboro.