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lgm270 · « **on:** March 31, 2005, 10:16:31 AM »

After years of abdicating his responsibility and throwing open the American border to the invading hordes of Mexican nationals, George Bush denounced as "vigilantes" thousands of American citizens who are forming a citizens' watch at the border and calling themselves "Minutemen."

Not to be outdone, Bush's good friend and fellow America hater Mexican Vicente Fox has deployed 1,000 Mexican soldiers on the border in response to the Minutemen.

This raises the issue of whether Bush will follow the example of his good friend and ally, Mexican Pres. Fox, and deploy American troops to engage American civilians who are exercising their 1st amendment rights of free assembly and free speech?

First Waco. Now the Arizona border. Will Bush follow the Clinton example and deploy US Armed forces to massacre American civilians as Clinton did at Waco?

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/3/31/134212.shtml

Robert · « **Reply #1 on:** March 31, 2005, 10:36:05 AM »

I just read the story in that link....In there with Late Night Jokes, and Cartoons. Sounds like a bunch of heresay to me...All of it. There has been nothing at all on any REAL news....and you can bet the lefties would be on it if there were truth to ANY of it. Maybe it is true...we will see in the next few days. I DO KNOW....if Mexican Military shows up and starts taking shots accross the border, OR tresspassing into the US....we will surely kick the crap out of their sorry asses. I do not support the 'so called minutemen'. They are looking for trouble. The 'Minutemen' are my neighbors here at home that are ready to act if needed..not a bunch of rich, retired, meddlesome guntoting bigots that want to kill human prey. If THESE people are a threat to ANY life, either Mexican OR American...and cross the 'border', then I hope the Mexicans are good marksmen.

lgm270 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 31, 2005, 11:26:02 AM »

Maybe Bush will slaughter the "Minutemen" the way Clinton sanctioned the slaughter of American civilians at Waco. That way the Mexicans invading our country can do so without opposition of any kind, since Bush obviously has no intention of defending the US border with Mexico.

You talk about rich bigots wanting to kill human prey. You should visit Los Angeles or Phoenix Arizona some time. In Los Angeles, 95% of the outstanding murder warrants are for illegal aliens, mostly Mexicans. In Maricopa county Arizona, roughly 2/3 of the murders each year are committed by illegal aliens...mostly Mexicans.

There are entire city blocks of Southern California that smell like Mexico.

Mexicans are invading our country and killing us. We are not invading their country. Who the hell would want their country anyway? It's a hell hole that even most Mexicans can't stand which is why they're flooding in here.

The Minutemen are necessary becuse Bush, and every other president since Eisenhower, has abdicated his constitutional duty to defend US Sovereignty.

How interesting that you hate Americans more than the greasy foreigners invading us. Maybe Mexican Vicente Fox will give you honororary Mexican citizenship, a commission in the Mexican Army, and give you the opportunity to fire on your fellow Americans whom you appear to hate so much.

lgm270 - There are some strong feelings on both sides of this issue. You are welcome to contribute to the ongoing discussion, but be advised that the discussion WILL remain civil. Thanks! FW

lostone1413 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 31, 2005, 12:56:24 PM »

igm270 here in Arizona talk to any LEO in any part of the state Be it Northern or Southern Arizona. They will tell you 50% of the arrest they make are illegals. Wife works in ER can tell you for sure what the majority of the ones getting free care at our expense are. Anyone who is against protecting are borders given 911 to me is a traitor to the country. How many like a couple on the forums that are against the minutemen you think we will find when the next 911 happens and they walked across are border?

fe352v8 · « **Reply #4 on:** March 31, 2005, 02:34:58 PM »

"The Minutemen = answer"

We are all sober, right?

life is no joke but funny things happen (like this is will turn out well)

jon

They are making those undecided, about gun ownership, think the anti-gun lobby was right, we are a bunch of dangerous, xenophobic, gun toting, Ramboish nuts.

Mikey · « **Reply #5 on:** April 01, 2005, 04:01:13 AM »

Minutemen huh? Where the hay were they when 80 innocent women and children were cookin' up in Waco, huh? Where were all these Minutemen when Randy Weaver was watching his wife and son die at the hands of the ATF?

Geez, they get all upset about a bunch of people trying to come to America to improve their lives - who they hay wouldn't want free health care and education for their children? Don't all parents hope for a better life for their children?

I say bring'em in, register them and put them to work so they can pay taxes and reduce some of the tax burden for us. And speaking of tax burdens, who the hay are all these minutemen and why aren't they working? Smells like a millon man march to me......... Mikey.

lgm270 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 01, 2005, 04:49:50 AM »

Perhaps you should volunteer to join the Mexican Army units being readied for action against the Minutement. Hating these Americans as much as you do, you might be able to shoot some of them at the expense of the Mexican army. If the Mexican army won't have you, try the MS-13 gang that has threatened the Minutement. Maybe a criminal gang will welcome your assistance so that they can more easily invade our country to deal drugs, kill Americans, rob steal and suck up our tax dollars.

You say that the Minutemen were not in WACO. Well I haven't seen you in Los Angeles protecting Americans from being murdered by Mexicans. 95% of the outstanding murder warrants in LA are for Mexicans. Where are you when the Mexicans, you love so much, are murdering American citizens?

The Mexican invasion of the United States is a violent invasion. They are threatening to "take back" California to be part of Mexico. After they do so and destroy Mexico, they'll come to your state for free healthcare etc.

Thank God for the Minutemen. They're doing something and our treasonous Mexican loving President is doing nothing.

lostone1413 · « **Reply #7 on:** April 01, 2005, 05:57:09 AM »

lgm270 Say if you don't live here in Arizona you would be more then welcome in this state!! I read some of the post I can't believe we have so many traitors. Told the wife if it gets hot on the border might be a good time to go to Southern Arizona on a little trip. People who don't live in the border state don't know what is really going on down here. If they know and are still against the minutemen they our traitors to the country

Robert · « **Reply #8 on:** April 01, 2005, 07:01:15 AM »

c'mon lgm and lonestone...some of us think that this is a bad situation, trying to fix a bad situation. That does NOT mean that we are traitors OR that we don't see the problem. This is not an easy fix....but I am guessing that it will turn into a bloody one. I would like to avoid that, both for Americans and for Mexicans. Something must be done that is for sure, but I don't see an untrained, ungoverned mob going to help anything. This just wreaks of 'range wars'....all the same heated thoughts...people wanting to kill each other, etc.... I guess we are just going to have a war. But then what about the legal Mexicans that are already here? Will you be able to trust them...or will you start taking shots at each other? See what I mean? It is very complex, and must be handled with a lot of thought, and careful actions, otherwise we will be rounding up all Mexicans into refugee camps...or economy (whether you like it or not...or if you beleive it) WILL suffer greatly. I would guess that over 90% of agricultural labor is performed by Mexicans....and YES...I am aware of the arguement...If Mexicans aren't doing the work, that it will give more Americans jobs. But...Americans ARE NOT DOING IT....and it would take an incredibly long time to adjust....You will probably end up paying 5 dollars a pound for apples, pears, cherries etc. and right down the line...it will effect grain, nuts, fruit and related pruducts such as juice, wine, bread, milk and on and on.......
The minutemen have gotten recognition, and have brought more attention to a bad problem....very needed attention....now (as you said) our government needs to deal with the problem...I would like to see the Minutemen go home...same as I would like to see our troops come home.
But....it probaly aint gonna happen..ONE fool will fire ONE shot...either Mexican or American....and then the blood will flow...it will be beyond stopping. Then we will probably have casualties in every state accross the country as well...again....both American and Mexican. This situation really sucks.

lostone1413 · « **Reply #9 on:** April 01, 2005, 07:08:41 AM »

Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom.
John F. Kennedy

Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Nations and peoples who forget this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and freedoms.
Robert Heinlein

I never had any use for JFK when he was in office. The more I read what he said the more I know he was way way better then what we have now in office!

bgjohn · « **Reply #10 on:** April 01, 2005, 07:13:50 AM »

The president and congress need to get off their A$$ and do something about the invasion from south of the border. We who live here can see the problem. The rest of you have your head in the sand.
JM :x

lgm270 · « **Reply #11 on:** April 01, 2005, 07:40:30 AM »

The argument that cheap Mexican labor is essential to American prosperity is very similar to the argument by Southern Slaveholders that African servitude (slavery) was "indispensible" to American civilization. On April 29, 1861, Jefferson Davis sent a message to the then newly convened Confederate congress expresing that sentiment in the strongest possible terms. Even as American well being and prosperity was never dependent on slavery, it is not dependent on cheap Mexican labor by people whose main contribution to our ecoomy is that they rake leaves and scrub toilets more cheaply than anyone else. Intelligence, not cheap brute strenght and unskilled Mestizos, is the basis of Americgan success and prosperity.

How many Mestizos contributed to the success of the US Space program and the placing of Americans on the moon? That is the symbol of American success....not toiling cheap labor. Americans who thing Mexicans are some kind of economic miracle need to learn how to rake their own leaves and scrub their own urinals.

If cheap Mexican labor were the basis of prosperity, Mexico would be the richest country in the world instead of the sewer that it is. If cheap Mexican labor is such a powerful econmoic force, WHY IS MEXICO SO POOR?

People who seek to deliver the US to Mexico are traitors. The President of the US has a contsitutional obligation to defend the borders of the United States and by his failure to defend our country against foreign invasion from MExico, BUSH IS A TRAITOR!

Why is it that the traitors who are so worried about Mexicans getting shot invading our country are so totally indifferent to the hundreds of Americans who are murdered, robbed and displaced by invading Mexicans criminals every day? I cannot understand traitors who are more loyal to Mexicans than to their own people who are the victims of the Mexican invasion. If you don't believe me, come to Los Angeles, visit the criminal courts and see who make up most of the cirminal defendants.

Why should invading Mexicans in 2005 be treated any differently than invading Japanese in 1941? America has the same right to defend itself against foreign invasion that it had in 1941 when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor.

I hope some of the invading Mexicans do get shot! Mabye they will get the message and stay in their own country where they belong!

lgm270 · « **Reply #12 on:** April 01, 2005, 08:21:08 AM »

Check out this link on illegal immigration:

http://www.americanpatrol.com/

lgm270 · « **Reply #13 on:** April 01, 2005, 08:37:59 AM »

For those Mexican lovers on this bbs who are so worried about the prospect of Mexican invaders getting shot while breaking into this country, we are nearing the anniversary of Los Angeles County Sheriff Deputy David March, who was murdered by an illegal alien Mexican criminal on April 29, 2002 while making a routine traffic stop. Armando Garcia a Mexican national who had been previously deported from the US, shot Deputy March and while he lay on the ground wounded and bleeding, finished him off execution style.

Go to this website for further details.

http://www.deputydavidmarch.com/

At the website you can see photos of Deputy March's widow and his parents. Maybe those of you who are so concerned about poor Mexican criminals being stopped at the borders can contact Deputy March's widow and express your concerns to her.

No doubt the widow of this American hero who was killed defending American citizens will be very touched by your concern for the people who murdered her husband!

Graybeard · « **Reply #14 on:** April 01, 2005, 09:25:23 AM »

Either this one STOPS BEING PERSONAL and gets back on topic or it gets DUMPED. I'm tired of telling some few folks to stop the personal attacks. I'm gonna start ending some memberships if it continues. LAST WARNING.