Author Topic: Traditional Muzzleloading Association (Read 1506 times)

rondo · « **on:** February 27, 2005, 08:03:16 AM »

I'd like to introduce the new national "Traditional Muzzleloading Association" dedicated to the preservation of traditional muzzleloaders and the components they shoot.

For more "info" check out:..... http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=85982&an=0&page=0#85982

YMHS
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lostid · « **Reply #1 on:** February 27, 2005, 09:20:09 AM »

I'll say this much,,
All that is is "Traditonal Muzzleloading" according to Claude Mathis and those that do what,and think what "Claude Mathis" does and thinks.

The guy has a "californy" vanity plate on his vehicle!! MZLODR!

Ya all just read that "whole" link,,it's all about argument and looking for money, I gives monies to what I think is right an that's truth. (give my monies ta Claude?)(no way)
I'll just support Traditional Muzzle Loading the best I can right here next ta home ,thank you very much. and,,,,,,

,,,,,TY GB,,for keeping an open forum

rondo · « **Reply #2 on:** February 27, 2005, 10:46:45 AM »

Lostid,.... Yore post sounds much like "sour grapes" to me, 'cause you were banned from posting on thet site. (twice? under two different "handles"??)

However the "facts" are,.... the site administrator (Claude) has NO "vested interest" in the TMA, other than be'n a "member". He was also generous enough to let the TMA use his site until we (the TMA) can establish one of our own.

The "link" is a simple "introduction" placed in a General Interest section of the site before the administrator "donated" the TMA a forum of it's own.

The TMA is a "non-profit" Association, and like any other "501-C3" organization sells memberships to finance things it offers to it's membership. Claude Mathis DOES NOT receive "one penny" from the Traditional Muzzleloading Association.

Funny Lostid, thet you should mention Claude's "Californy" vanity plate,..... 'cause the TMA is incorporated in the State of Michigan!!
I can assure everone, thet ALTHOUGH the TMA went "public" on that particular "website", it's administrator is "niether" an officer of, or on the BOD of,.... the TMA!!

As a member of the TMA "Board of Directors",.... I feel qualified to answer any questions in regards to the TMA thet you folks may have, or you can contact the President of the TMA (Chuck Goodall) at,.....huntinfool7@charter.net

THe TMA is dedicated solely to the "preservation" of traditional muzzleloader history, events, and hunting.

As a last comment, I will say thet Lostid's "first impression" of the TMA is,.... "completely in ERROR"!!

YMHS
rollingb/Rondo

roundball · « **Reply #3 on:** February 27, 2005, 11:18:06 AM »

Quote from: lostid

I'll say this much,,
All that is is "Traditonal Muzzleloading" according to Claude Mathis and those that do what,and think what "Claude Mathis" does and thinks.

The guy has a "californy" vanity plate on his vehicle!! MZLODR!

Ya all just read that "whole" link,,it's all about argument and looking for money, I gives monies to what I think is right an that's truth. (give my monies ta Claude?)(no way)
I'll just support Traditional Muzzle Loading the best I can right here next ta home ,thank you very much. and,,,,,,

,,,,,TY GB,,for keeping an open forum

I think anyone who reads a post such as this one you just made will draw the correct conclusion.

rondo · « **Reply #4 on:** February 27, 2005, 11:49:48 AM »

Thanks Roundball!! :agree:

YMHS
rollingb/Rondo

lostid · « **Reply #5 on:** February 27, 2005, 01:07:29 PM »

yer sure write rondo,,it sure is "sour grapes ta me" an I hold nun against others what wanna follow.
and yer right again, but I ain't the only one what's used a different handle from tyme ta tyme. guess the trouble is, I speak my mind. If'n I call the kettle black,,well I'm sorry.
Ifn ya all wanna tel me bout' how this above thing is gonna help me??

see what happened was I jus stepped on rollinb's and Bill'nc's and rondo's and roundball's toes all at the same tyme..an they don't like it,,so's they all say I'm wrong. ooopp's :oops:

p.s. do you guy's really "care' ? or are ya just , I ain't no good at argument,,I'll not bicker with ya,
read the link.

rondo · « **Reply #6 on:** February 27, 2005, 01:59:40 PM »

Lostid,.... You ain't step'n on my toes, but you are "jump'n to conclusions" in regards to matters you don't know nuthin about.

Now as far as "how the TMA is gonna help you",.... the TMA will be a "voice" for traditionalist in regards to special muzzleloading seasons, the TMA will be have'n Cyber blanket prizes, the TMA will have Cyber Postal Shoots with awards, the TMA's first annual rendezvous will be held in Ill. this fall (different state each year), the TMA will offer a subscription to the Buckskinner Magazine at a discounted price along with membership, and etc.

........ these things are only a "begin'n" of what the TMA has in store for it's members.

...... and remember, it "ain't always about you",.... the TMA was developed to preserve our traditional muzzleloader heritage for our "future generations"!!

If you wish to join an organization thet's dedicated to traditional "ethics", "muzzleloaders", and "events",.... then "think about join'n the TMA"!!

rollingb/Rondo

lostid · « **Reply #7 on:** February 27, 2005, 02:20:25 PM »

Quote from: rondo

but you are "jump'n to conclusions" in regards to matters you don't know nuthin about.

yup. yer right. sorry, i,,, don't know nuthin.

Ramrod · « **Reply #8 on:** February 27, 2005, 02:23:41 PM »

Thanks for the info rb, I mean, rondo.

And hey, that lostid fella sure gets ornery at times, but he knows some stuff. Who am I to throw stones, I'm on the edge of getting kicked out wherever I go, IRL or on the net. Not everone is a diplomat like you!

rondo · « **Reply #9 on:** February 27, 2005, 02:40:39 PM »

Ramrod,.... :-D :-D I never figgered on hear'n anybuddy ever call "me" a diplomat!! :-D :-D

.... in fact I got so "rowdy" with some of the other TMA Board of Directors dur'n the devlopement of the TMA,.... thet I was issued the titles of "TMA Master of Arms", and "TMA Guard Dawg".

....... actually, to save a lot of post'n, I'd suggest do'n a liddle "search'n" on the link I posted. The Traditional Muzzleloading Association has it's own forum at the bottom of the "Main Index Page".

Some folks probly don't realize it by read'n our posts,..... but, me'n Lostid are "buds"!!

YMHS
rollingb/Rondo

lostid · « **Reply #10 on:** February 28, 2005, 04:07:40 PM »

Quote from: rondo

Some folks probly don't realize it by read'n our posts,..... but, me'n Lostid are "buds"!!

yup,that's the truth.

i traded sum with russ too.

tell ya what,. if you can get russ ta remeber who i is an how he traded with me, with a response on any forum I frequent, I'll give $50 to the tma. an not want nuthin back.
now ya gotta know I trust yer fellers ideals,yet how can I trust a "group" too represent my voice",, if the secratray don't know who i am?

rondo · « **Reply #11 on:** February 28, 2005, 04:59:20 PM »

Quote from: lostid

Quote from: rondo
Some folks probly don't realize it by read'n our posts,..... but, me'n Lostid are "buds"!!

yup,that's the truth.

i traded sum with russ too.

tell ya what,. if you can get russ ta remeber who i is an how he traded with me, with a response on any forum I frequent, I'll give $50 to the tma. an not want nuthin back.

$45.00 will git you a "Charter Membership" in the TMA with a year's subscription to the Buckskinner Magazine.

I'm also sure thet RussB knows you!!

Quote

now ya gotta know I trust yer fellers ideals,yet how can I trust a "group" too represent my voice",, if the secratray don't know who i am?

As a TMA Board Director, I can honestly say that it's rather difficult to know each and every "individual member" within the TMA.

However each TMA member can rest assured that the preservation of our traditional muzzleloader's "heritage",.... is the very "reason" the Traditional Muzzleloading Association was developed.

YMHS
rollingb/Rondo

dlemaster · « **Reply #12 on:** March 01, 2005, 03:09:38 AM »

I think that there is definitely a place for the TMA, especially with the direction muzzle loading in general has taken over the last few years with inlines and all.
Now don't get me wrong, I feel that anybody who is shooting anything is a good thing for all of us. It keeps the shooting sports alive and well.
In the area where I live and hunt, by far it is more common to see people with inlines, taking advantage of extra or extended hunting seasons, than folks using traditional rifles. I feel that muzzle loading in general has lost the focus that it had in the beginning of reliving the traditions of our past.
I admit I am prejudiced, I like to hunt and shoot with traditional flintlock rifles and I like to make traditional muzzle loaders with traditional tools and methods of the 18th century.
So I am all for the TMA.

Regards, Dave

rondo · « **Reply #13 on:** March 01, 2005, 07:02:38 AM »

dlemaster,.... This was also the main concern, and the very reason the TMA was developed. As I'm sure everybuddy knows by now, the threat to traditional muzzleloaders has been evident in such things as, CVA no longer makes sidlelocks (only inlines), and such places as WalMart has quit stocking sidelocks (stocking only inlines).

The TMA was organised to help "re-kindle" interest in traditional muzzleloaders, and to preserve what we have left before more is lost to modern technology.

YMHS
rollingb/Rondo

sharps4590 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 01, 2005, 12:44:37 PM »

Ya know rondo, I don't believe traditional muzzleloading will ever go away or that we have lost much, if anything. Before I go any farther let me say that I have been watching the TMA posts on another site and am in full support of it. I'm merely waiting for you fellas to get the ball rolling, well, evidently you already have. I'd like to be a part of it. I don't like in-lines or compound bows. I have nothing against anyone who uses them I just don't like them.

Back to my original point. If "traditional" muzzleloaders were going to fade away they missed the perfect opportunity over a century ago, but. Lots of guys were still out there shooting, making and repairing those that existed. Then in the '30's fellas like Walther Cline started the NMLRA. In the late '40's and early '50's guys like Val Forgett and Turner Kirkland started Navy Arms and Dixie Gun Works. The rest, as has so often been said, is history. I'm not saying this in argument, not by any means. It's just that over the last few months I've thought about this a lot. If anything, I would fear the passing of modern muzzleloaders, and that would be a shame, and I say that sincerely. They have no history or character. I find no warmth or beauty in them. There is no skill or artistry required to build one. Mold up a chunk of plastic, stick in an investment cast action and voila......a modern muzzle loader is born. Probably takes 15-20 minutes to assemble one. That's cold man......really cold.

Oh well.....momma says supper is ready.....I'll keep abreast of TMA and good luck!!!

Vic

lostid · « **Reply #15 on:** March 18, 2005, 05:49:42 PM »

rondo?
seen yer name up top same tyme as mine,, gonna post? er just read.

rondo · « **Reply #16 on:** March 20, 2005, 01:01:23 AM »

Quote from: lostid

rondo?
seen yer name up top same tyme as mine,, gonna post? er just read.

What kind of question is that,....

rollingb/Rondo

lostid · « **Reply #17 on:** March 20, 2005, 10:48:53 AM »

OK, I'll re-phrase,

How's the TMA Doing? How many members so far? And how's progress going for it's own link??

rondo · « **Reply #18 on:** March 20, 2005, 11:57:35 AM »

At this time the TMA is work'n on structure'n it's own website, we're also work'n on the Frontiersman Record Book for big game take'n with "traditional muzzleloaders only"!

We've gotta lot of other "irons in tha fire" to,.... try'n to git TMA decals, TMA bumper stickers, TMA flags, TMA State Reps. TMA Postal Shoots, and etc.

I'll be post'n a link to the TMA website as soon as it's "up'n run'n"!!

Oh!!.... and the TMA has over 70 Charter Members last time I looked!!

rollingb/Rondo

lostid · « **Reply #19 on:** March 20, 2005, 02:06:45 PM »

K then. an thank ya.
if'n yer lookin fer Mn state rep ask Riley. That saltnpepper beard was hawkin TMA at the New Ulm trade fair just last weekend. Rileys' a good man. He'll set too. (seen tlukes the silver smith also)
I spoke with Russ just last week er' so,,he splained whats for. I'll give my dollars. Cause I think what you fellers are "meanin" is right.
All I ask is don't you fellers dicker once ya got the site-up,, that should be all done over ta the MLMB
don't need no bumper-sticker. An i already got the coiled snake on the truck. but a "badge" fer coat or clothing? Hhmm, perhaps could find a place fer that.
you tell all three them fellers I says howdy

rondo · « **Reply #20 on:** March 20, 2005, 02:27:03 PM »

What's the "MLMB"

??

rollingb/Rondo

lostid · « **Reply #21 on:** March 20, 2005, 04:18:19 PM »

geez,soory,,it show's-up on my list as" muzzleloading forum viewing list of forums"
guess i caint spl right,so maby it's mlfvlof? er i just hit the key's wrong er sumpthin,,

rondo · « **Reply #22 on:** March 20, 2005, 04:42:16 PM »

Once the TMA website is up'n run'n,.... the TMA forums within the Muzzleloading Forum will be closed down and deleted.

The TMA is only there right now on a temporary basis thanks to that website's "host" of help'n us out until the TMA has a website of it's own (hopefully in about 2 weeks).

rollingb/Rondo

TMA Co-Founder

Naphtali · « **Reply #23 on:** March 26, 2005, 07:20:32 AM »

Traditional muzzleloading interests me. That's the upside.

I become, first embarrassed, then uncomfortable, then leery of people who correspond in genuine synthetic Mountain Man dialect -- the same range of emotions I go through when I see women with tatoos or tinted contact lenses, or men wearing bazillions of gold chains, bracelets, and pinky rings, or wearing ear rings and NOT WEARING tricorn hat and cutlass.

When you folks want to reasonably and intelligently talk about traditional muzzleloading as a serious hobby, I'm willing to listen.

If you want to cast silly aspersions at one another in tragicomic dialect, have a nice day.

rondo · « **Reply #24 on:** March 31, 2005, 07:50:01 AM »

Here's the latest TMA up-date. The TMA now has it's own website, and I invite everyone interested in traditional muzzleloaders to chec it out.

http://www.traditionalmuzzleloadingassociation.org/index.html

YMHS
rollingb/Rondo

crow_feather · « **Reply #25 on:** March 31, 2005, 08:44:40 PM »

Naphtali,

I read your post, then reread it, then read it again. I was trying to figure out why you had to write mean to these people when they were just conversing with one another about what interests them. If you don't like what they are writing, please just move on.

C F

lostid · « **Reply #26 on:** April 01, 2005, 04:22:44 AM »

aw heck C_F , Naph didn't mean no harm. He just don't understand buckskinners. And I have been givin' rondo a hard tyme.

Naphtali? Using Trad arms is an art. It's about capabilities and earned abilities thru dedication and practice. It's about being able to accomplish.
It's can be for those that have already accomplished all of the "common" goals of the hunter/sportsmen of todays modern arms and what/need a more personal challenge.
It becomes a way of thinking, a way of life. I have met, swapped with,hugged, and fought with, folks from coast too coast. And that's a good thing,So hang in there Naph,,it's gonna be OK.

p.s. rondo, I just sent the monies ta russ yesterday,,but he made me "promise" ta be nice! what's he mean buy that anyways?

rondo · « **Reply #27 on:** April 01, 2005, 06:05:38 AM »

Quote from: lostid

And I have been givin' rondo a hard tyme.

p.s. rondo, I just sent the monies ta russ yesterday,,but he made me "promise" ta be nice! what's he mean buy that anyways?

John,.... I'm sure you'll figger it out when Russ recieves your TMA Membership dues, and you are permited to access the TMA website!!

YMHS
rollingb/Rondo
TMA Co-Founder