Author Topic: graybeard is right  (Read 1925 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline 45north

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Avid Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 225
graybeard is right
« on: March 07, 2005, 02:01:29 PM »
I also wish ruger would make s&w revolvers too. Then s&w would have a revolver that held together, and was not over priced. I am pretty sure that is what you ment. Is it not graybeard.
  45north

Offline myronman3

  • Moderator
  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4837
  • Gender: Male
graybeard is right
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2005, 01:41:09 AM »
i dont know why you think rugers are so tough.   i personally had two super blackhawks come apart in my hand; my dad had the third come apart in his.  all broke in the exact same way (which had nothing to do with the loads being fired).    
    it is a myth that they are so strong.  and in all fairness,  graybeard was singing this song way before i  believed it.  i dont know what led him to enlightenment before me,  but whatever it was, he was right on the mark (as usual).   that will teach me for doubting him.  
    btw, one ruger remains in the collection, i do plan on replacing it next year, with something a bit nicer....

Offline BlkHawk73

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1501
  • Gender: Male
graybeard is right
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2005, 02:48:49 PM »
Quote
dont know why you think rugers are so tough



Perhaps because they can handle loads that would put other revolvers in the scrap box.  You don't see commercial loads or loading books speciafically done for many other makes/models.  Would not want to be holding a S&W or other flashy gun when the firing pin impacted the primer on a "Ruger only" loaded cartridge.  

Curious as to what problems occured with you SBH's.  Sure there other makes in the strength class (FA) but at a much higher price.  A Ruger would do just as well for me.  (I'm not against spending $$$$ on a gun.  Have before and will again.)
"Never Surrender, Just Carry On."  - G.S.

Offline 45north

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Avid Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 225
graybeard is right
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2005, 03:54:02 PM »
Well all I can say is that I have never had to have a ruger single action repaired for any reason. They have never broken.But I cannot say the same for the S&W mountain gun 629-5 that I had. I mailed it back to S&W three times in two years for frame stretching.Repeated use of heavy 44 mag handloads was too much for it. After the third repair S&W informed me they would not be able to repair the revolver again for fear of frame fatigue. I sold the MG and never looked back.
  You can not buy a stronger more reliable revolver than a ruger for the same amount of money,period!
  45north

Offline TC Shooter

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Avid Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 157
graybeard is right
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2005, 06:37:32 AM »
I also wish ruger would make s&w revolvers too.

Yeah , then I could experience what it is like to have a Smith with a creepy trigger pull.  :roll:

The last Ruger revolver I bought (7.5" Super Redhawk) was a total junker. The cylinder gap was not even all the way around. Binding occcured in fairly short order. The bore was not even uniform - pushing a  very tight patch down the bore you could feel the resistance change dramatically about 2/3 rd of the way.

Needless to say this revolver shot like crap. Much less accurate at 25yds than my Smith at 50 yds. I took this back to where I bought it.

Ruger can produce junk just like anyone else.

Offline Lawdog

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4464
graybeard is right
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2005, 10:16:18 AM »
Quote from: TC Shooter
I also wish ruger would make s&w revolvers too.

Yeah , then I could experience what it is like to have a Smith with a creepy trigger pull.  :roll:

The last Ruger revolver I bought (7.5" Super Redhawk) was a total junker. The cylinder gap was not even all the way around. Binding occcured in fairly short order. The bore was not even uniform - pushing a  very tight patch down the bore you could feel the resistance change dramatically about 2/3 rd of the way.

Needless to say this revolver shot like crap. Much less accurate at 25yds than my Smith at 50 yds. I took this back to where I bought it.

Ruger can produce junk just like anyone else.


You DID send it back to Ruger so they could replace it for you?  Years back a friend bought a Security Six that was something like that and Ruger couldn't replace it quick enough.  Lawdog
 :D
Gary aka Lawdog is now deceased. He passed away on Jan. 12, 2006. RIP Lawdog. We miss you.

Offline poncaguy

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2751
  • Gender: Male
graybeard is right
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2005, 01:57:08 PM »
Glad I shoot a Dan Wesson! :)

Offline Graybeard

  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (69)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 26946
  • Gender: Male
graybeard is right
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2005, 06:23:25 PM »
For what it's worth my comment on this was meant as a joke.


Bill aka the Graybeard
President, Graybeard Outdoor Enterprises
256-435-1125

I am not a lawyer and do not give legal advice.

Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life anyone who believes in Him will have everlasting life!

Offline 45north

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Avid Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 225
graybeard is right
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2005, 07:35:40 PM »
My comment was also just in good fun. I know S&W has a fine revolver or they would not have sold millions of them. This conversation could have just as easily been about ford or chevy.
45north

Offline 6Shooter

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Avid Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 140
graybeard is right
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2005, 12:28:25 PM »
I like Ruger & S&W's.

Offline myronman3

  • Moderator
  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4837
  • Gender: Male

Offline His lordship.

  • Trade Count: (12)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1018
I used to hate Rugers, now I have 3.
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2005, 04:19:01 AM »
One thing in the business world, things might change for a company.  I had a Ruger Mk.2 in .22 RF for many years, shot very well, but you had to keep it clean.  Tried to take it apart for a proper servicing and could not as someone at the factory had pounded the release lever in too tight.  Traded it for a CZ-75.

I heared that Rugers were bad in triggers and barrels in the early 90's, waited a few years and bought a Ruger GP-100 in 2003, it too has a tight forcing cone to cylinder fit, it will bind up after around 70 rounds of shooting, I simply clean the cylinder front and it works fine.  Lightly filed the forcing cone to help, but the cleaning works.  The trigger seems fine on it and my recently purchased Single Six in .22 rf.  But, my Ruger 77/17 did have to have the trigger replaced with a Timney, just too heavy at 5 lbs for a bench scoped rifle, now it is 2.5 lbs.  

I am happy with the Rugers that I have, my answer would be to send any gun that does not work back to them.  I have not had to do that yet, I hope I don't, but maybe if they get flooded with defective revolvers, then they might have a corporate meeting to get the factory people to clean up their act better.  I should have sent my Ruger Mk. 2 back to them and let them clean and take it apart, as that sure was a nice shooter.  I have thought about getting another one as they are soooo cheap, but that goofy take apart setup!!