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Offline southern utah

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Savage 99M
« on: February 08, 2003, 06:02:43 AM »
I just bought a 99M with a williams peep. The butt stock is a Monte Carlo style and is to high to use the peep well. Where could I find a walnut butt stock that is straight. Option is to cut of cheel pad.

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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2003, 07:42:29 AM »
Southern Utah,
Why do you think that you have a model "M' Savage 99?  I'm not the ultimate Savage 99 expert. This M model is getting bounced around here lately, and I can find nothing on any such model.  With the Monte Carlo style stock, it sounds like it is post s/n 1,000,000.  Does it have the large/small diamond mix checkering with non-walnut wood?  Is it factory drilled and tapped for scope (you can tell because all the barrel lettering is on the side instead of on top)?  Is there a rotary magazine with the counter window on the left side of the receiver?

I believe that Cabela's offers a rear replacement stock for the 99's.  Please don't think I am trying to put you down or ream you out.....That certainly isn't the case.  Just trying to get the correct information to help.  If you can't use the Williams Peep perhaps you can find a scope since it is probably d&t' d.
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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2003, 03:36:27 PM »
Savage T,
The rifle has 99M stamped on it. Ser # is past 1,000,000. It does have Monte stock with checkering. It has the rotary mag and the little window. I was told it is walnut. It is taped for scope but I am interested in keeping the peep. The butt stock is to high , designed for scope with I really don't want to use. I can always cut the stock down which is what I will probably do. The gun is real clean and the price was good so if I screw it up I can always keep it and give to a grandchild some day.  I thought if there was a used walnut buttstock in the 99E style I would be interested and keep the Monte unharmed.

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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2003, 05:22:13 AM »
today while researching another rifle I looked in the blur book 20th ann. edi.pg. 1077 under model 99f and at the bottom it states this model in many cases had the reciever marked "99M"  the year of manu. shows to be between 1955 and 1973. :D   JIM

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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2003, 12:32:09 PM »
southern Utah and savage t This can also go with my last post as I thought but wasnt sure it also states in a newer blue book that the model 99"m" stood for monte carlo stock which I cant figure out why as the wood can be changed from model to model. :D   JIM

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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2003, 04:18:45 PM »
OK Guys, Time to fess up!  As I began to doubt my sources, I went to my trusted cohorts and asked them about the Savage model "M" 99.  Here's the responses:

1st response:  A little bit of additional information on the "M" designation on late M99's: I have two of them with the "Model 99M" marking on the receiver. The earliest is a .308Win with decent wood and cut checkering with what appears to be an oil finish. The barrel has the rear sight boss, the trigger is gold colored, safety is the tang type and the serial number is 1,052,xxx. I estimate that the year of production is 1963.

The second rifle is a .284Win with impressed checkered buttstock and forend with what appears to be a urethane finish. Wood quality is not too bad. The barrel is of a straight taper configuration without a boss for the rear sight. Trigger is gold and of course it has the tang safety. Serial number is A652,xxx. Estimated year of production is 1971.

Both rifles have monte-carlo type buttstocks with aluminum buttplates and factory equipped with fixed sling swivals. Magazine rotors are aluminum. Both rifles are equipped with 22" barrels.

Forends are similar in shape to those of M99F rifles.

Murray's book covers the topic of the "M" designation in the section dealing with the M99DL rifles; and as RAM points out, is not a specific model designation but rather an indicator of a rifle equipped with a monte-carlo buttstock. The impression is that only M99DL rifles were marked with the "M" designation.

2nd response:  The "model M" is not a model at all, this is printed in several books. It appears on DL's, some F's, some CD's and god only knows how many receiver d'jours that were pumped out during that time frame.
Originally it was a way for the factory to mark frames that were destined to be fit with a "M"onte Carlo stock.

So all those times you see a Model M offered for sale, you can be sure the seller doesn't know his 99's  



And finally the 3ed response from the all-time guru of '99's "RAM":  Someone had the adacity to question "Why does my '99 have Model"M" stamped on it?"  RAM answers........

And because I have "Mom" tatoo'd on my arm you'ld presume I was a mother?

1.)Because there is no cataloged model "M"

2.)Because AT LEAST three (3) cataloged models have the "M' stamping on them, so if one of them IS an "M", what are the other two ?

3.) Because that's the factory's written explaination.


Is it deceiving? yes. Could the factory marked them another way? yes Did they?no.

Just another one of the mystery's

Thank you Gentlemen, for your clearification about the "M" model 99.  May it forever lie in peace.

Jim
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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2003, 07:29:30 PM »
Well guys if you are looking for someone that knows a little about the 99  ,I know as little as anyone . I have always likes the 99 but the only other time I bought one it wouldn't eject anything fired in it. A smith messed with it but I opped to give it back to the dealer.  When I saw the 99M-what ever it is it felt good and was in great shape. I have found it doen't work well with the peep and Monte Carlo stock, the cheek area is to high.  Will this M frame accept a straight butt stock and any one got on they might part with? Ya it is tapped for a scope but didn't want to go there.  Thanks to  Savage T , jhm and all those that helped get this M thing figured out.

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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2003, 02:32:33 AM »
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Well guys if you are looking for someone that knows a little about the 99  ,I know as little as anyone . I have always likes the 99 but the only other time I bought one it wouldn't eject anything fired in it. A smith messed with it but I opped to give it back to the dealer.  When I saw the 99M-what ever it is it felt good and was in great shape. I have found it doen't work well with the peep and Monte Carlo stock, the cheek area is to high.  Will this M frame accept a straight butt stock and any one got on they might part with? Ya it is tapped for a scope but didn't want to go there.  Thanks to  Savage T , jhm and all those that helped get this M thing figured out.


SU...........Have you contacted Cabela's as I earlier suggested?  In their latest 2003 Shooting Catalog, page 94,  Order Code 171; Stock #XP-22-2714 $64.99; Forearm #XP-22-2715  $44.99.  1-800-237-4444.  Please don't butcher the original stock.  What kind of peep sight do you have?  Is it a receiver sight or one of the tang sights that mounted on the tang, behind the cocking indicator?  Just thinking that you might find a  1X red-dot scope that would still give you the quick lock-up that peeps afford and you can keep both eyes open!  

Jim
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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2003, 03:31:31 AM »
I did see a couple stocks and matching forearms on e-bay a couple weeks ago and they wernt too high might keep an eye there or post here in the clasafied section looking for such. :D   JIM