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Offline DakotaElkSlayer

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« on: April 20, 2005, 09:17:36 AM »
Could you guys tear off a pop top and weigh it on your scale?  Got a cheap scale and want to see how accurate it is.  Please let me know how much your scale records...my top is from a diet coke.

Jim
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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2005, 01:10:10 PM »
I laughed at first but then your question made me curious about how good is the quality control for beverage cap makers?  I don’t have a diet Coke cap but I do have a lot of beer caps so I weighed 6 of them. I must say that it wasn’t as wide a spread as I thought it would be.

19.7
20.0
20.3
20.3
20.4
20.6
 :lol:
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« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2005, 01:14:54 PM »
Jim;
I weighed 2 tabs, they weren't torn off, they were bent back-and-forth until they broke off!

One weighed 4.7 grains and the other weighed 4.3 grains!

Hope this helps you out!
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« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2005, 01:24:45 PM »
Jim,

What brand of scale do you own? They do make scale-checking kits that don’t cost that much, you can get them though most any of the supply house like Midway, Southern, or Graf & Sons.
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« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2005, 02:40:45 PM »
i checked mine by weighing a 40 grain bullet.   right on the nuts.

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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2005, 05:05:25 PM »
Email this guy avogadro1@verizon.net and ask about an M2 calibration weight in 1 gram size.  I got mine for less than $4.00 including the shipping.  An M2 1 gram is +/- 3 mg, so the weight can weigh .997 g to 1.003 g.  There are 15.43 gr/g, so this weight will check the scale in a pretty common weight range for handguns.
 
If you need more M2 calibration weights, this set is just like the ones I just received from the same seller for less than $20 including shipping. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=48727&item=7509980342&rd=1

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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2005, 05:47:29 PM »
Just had to know!!! On my Pact, bud-light pull tabs weighed, 4.7, 4.7, 4.8, 4.7, and a couple w/ visible "hangnails" 4.9, 5.2, 5.1.     Haven't had my ole 505 out for years but on the same tabs 4.7, 4.6, 4.7, 4.6, w/ "hangnails" 4.8, 5.0. 4.8... Hope this helps as I too am amazed at the uniformity... but As stated previously, if I wanna know I just weigh a quality name bullet!!! Marty

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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2005, 03:25:51 AM »
race - its been my experience that Budweiser has better quality control than PACT.

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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2005, 05:10:22 AM »
As Ricciardelli has pointed out in an earlier post, using a match grade .223 bullet is a better test because of the reliability of the bullet weights.

On the topic of Budweiser, I'm glad somebody likes it.  I never could figure out out the popularity of that "beer".
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« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2005, 06:44:08 AM »
it wasn't a plug for Bud..........it was a slam on PACT...........

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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2005, 08:02:35 AM »
I've got a couple of PACT products and everything works really well. What kind of problems are you getting?
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« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2005, 08:48:08 AM »
I have their BBK II digital scales that has been a problem from day one. In fact when I had issues with it I found out it is the exact same model as the one RCBS sells under their name. Essentially RCBS told me how to get my PACT reset as the PACT people insisted I had no problem. I had previously owned a Dillon Dterminator which was far and away the better unit....albeit more money well worth it.

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« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2005, 11:15:10 AM »
SKB: I am sorry to hear that you had probs. w/ yer pact... mine is at least 12 yrs old.. I did know that the rcbs and (another one that slips my feeble mind) are the same unit ... so I bought the pact on "Price" and have had no probs except when the batt. gets low!!! as for A.B. quality control, I have been a customer for at least 30+ yrs and have no complaints ... Marty   BTW elkslayer,,, did ya get what you were after???

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« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2005, 03:57:05 PM »
I have been using my PACT BBK for more than five years & have not encountered any problems with it. I contacted the people at PACT on their 1 800 # & got a lot of help about how to use the calibration process for this scale.
The price is right. The scale works well. The company backs up their product with courteous & well trained customer service people. What more could I ask for?

Rod.
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« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2005, 04:26:04 PM »
The guy I got my old style D Terminator from used match bullets as check weights.  The scale is .1 gr off, according to an M2 calibration weight that is far more accurate than +/- .1 gr, but my 1973 Ohaus 505 is right on.

I suppose everyone knows to keep their check weights in a closed container and to only handle them with tweezers?  A Ziplock bag and the tweezers in a Swiss Army knife are good enough for the task.

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« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2005, 03:47:30 AM »
4.1 here on a rcbs electronic scale and the same at the pawn shop on a gold scale also electronic, and this was a used tab off of a diet coke as we all know when it is removed from can a small portion will be left on the can and if you look close the amt. left on the can will vary slightly. :D    JIM

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« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2005, 10:18:34 AM »
Thanks for the replies guys!  I ended up buying an el' cheapo digital scale on Ebay.  Figured that the technology behind scales has been around for such a long time, why not see if it works?  Shipped to my door it ran a whopping $25.00.
  I load with Lee Dippers so I figured I would check the scale with them.  Seems like all my powder charges weighed less than what the Lee chart says; that's when I became worried about the accuracy on the light side.  I have a 50g calibration weight and the scale is EXACT with that(grams to the .01).  
  I then weighed my 250g Nosley JHP's...they were coming in at 249.1-249.2gr.  Since everything seemed to be consitantly light, I figured I would post on here the pop top thing.  My two pop tops weigh 4.2 and 4.3 grains respectively...  Compared to Jim's 4.1grains on two different scales, I will call this scale plenty accurate FOR ME!
  I am reloading a Ruger SBHH in .45 Colt and have no reason to even approach max loads...

Thanks,

Jim
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