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Euro 'gendarmerie' set up to police the world's trouble spots

By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard in Brussels
(Filed: 18/09/2004)

The European Union added a fresh arm to its fast-growing military and police machinery yesterday, launching a fighting "gendarmerie" for quick deployment to trouble spots all over world.

 
 
EU defence ministers meeting in Holland agreed to back the French-inspired plan for a 900-man force to be operational by December. Comprising French, Italian, Spanish, Dutch, and Portuguese units, the gendarmerie - or carabinieri in Italian - will be well-armed and ready for full-scale conflict if necessary. The first commander will be French, with headquarters in Italy.

Michelle Alliot-Marie, the French defence minister, said the force was designed for "post-conflict" duties in regions emerging from civil war such as Bosnia, Kosovo and Ivory Coast.

She extolled the move as further proof that Europe is coming of age as a genuine military power and added: "When we spoke of European defence 10 years ago, it was utopian; five years ago, it was just talk; now it's a reality."
Britain welcomed the scheme but without its own tradition of a militarised police it has no plans to take part. The gendarmerie is one of a plethora of cross-border military, paramilitary, and police bodies sprouting up in the EU, including a Finnish-Swedish force to patrol the Arctic wastes and a Franco-Spanish anti-terrorist police corps.

The EU's main project is a rapid reaction force, a pool of 60,000 troops, 400 aircraft and 40 warships, backed by a military staff and an intelligence cell in Brussels, supposedly ready for duty worldwide. Critics say it remains a paper army, lacking the basic airlift to project force overseas, or the sort of "smart" weapons that dominate modern warfare.

Mrs Alliot-Marie has been pushing for an autonomous EU military force outside Nato control. She is the chief advocate of a strategic alliance between the EU and China to counter American power, a plan that has infuriated Washington.

While Britain and France have been working closely together in pushing the EU's defence ambitions, their ultimate vision is starkly different. Paris sees it as part of long-term goal of breaking dependence on Washington: London sees it as a means of locking the EU into the transatlantic structure.

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German film shows softer side of Hitler

Viewers flock to see despot shown as neither demon nor caricature

MATTHEW SCHOFIELD

Knight Ridder


BERLIN - Young women looking for secretarial work rise to meet their prospective boss, and in a movie moment that's historic and worrisome to many Germans, they're greeted by a gentle, smiling, friendly Adolf Hitler.

That portrayal of Hitler in a new movie called "Der Untergang" ("The Downfall") is the talk of Germany these days. The biggest-budget German film in years, it depicts Hitler's final days in a Berlin bunker, and it's the first German movie to portray the architect of the Holocaust as human, not a caricature of evil.

The movie is playing to near-packed theaters throughout the country (attracting 100,000 viewers on its first day), and it's been featured on the front pages of national newspapers and on magazine covers.

"Hitler is our most loyal companion," the Frankfurter Allgemeine newspaper said. "The Adenauers and the Brandts, the Kennedys and Gorbachevs, come and go, Adolf Hitler remains. His image is not fading."

"For decades, Hitler was portrayed either as a demon or as a comic strip character," director Oliver Hirschbiegel said in Focus Magazine. "It is about time we confronted our history."

Sir Ian Kershaw, a noted Hitler biographer, said the movie didn't break any ground. "Historians have accepted these details for years," he said. But, he added, it's a more accurate portrayal than film has produced before of the most infamous man of the 20th century.

The movie depicts many in the rogues' gallery of Nazi Germany -- SS leader Heinrich Himmler, architect Albert Speer, propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels and Hitler's mistress/wife Eva Braun -- and shows each in a human light.

How to deal with Hitler and his inner circle has been a central issue in Germany since the defeat of Nazi Germany in 1945. It's illegal to display the Nazi swastika or sell Hitler's book "Mein Kampf" ("My Struggle"), and singing the most infamous verse of the German national anthem, the one associated with Hitler's Third Reich, is taboo.

Leaving a theater near the heart of Berlin, 78-year-old Klaus Nuebauer looked at the ground and shook his head. He'd been a 19-year-old stenographer in Berlin when the city fell. The son of communists, he had family members who were killed by the Nazi regime.

"I needed to see how it would be portrayed," he said. "There are so many questions I've had, all these years. This movie will stay with me for a long time. I think it's important for us, for Germans."

Not everyone agrees. A man who would identify himself only as 63-year-old Meier said, "It is a small look at his life, and I won't accept the line on the screen at the end, that 6 million Jews were killed by Germans. It simply isn't true."

http://www.charlotte.com/mld/observer/news/9703547.htm

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http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/pages/nz.html

Inspired by a single charismatic leader, the Nazis, through the infrastructure of their National Socialist Party, would reach with repressive hands into almost every corner of European life, subverting justice and the rule of law. They held absolute sway in Germany and almost achieved their aim of total European domination.


Many industrialists and bankers were Nazi supporters and provided financial backing during the rise of Nazism. These men held numerous directorships during the Nazi regime, headed firms which produced supplies for the German war effort and exploited slave labor in their plants. Some were tried as Nazi criminals after the war


Propaganda is a tricky matter to define. My favorite, but not very useful, definition is F. M. Cornford's: "Propaganda is the art of very nearly deceiving one's friends without quite deceiving one's enemies."

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Neo-Nazis make major gains in state elections

By Tony Paterson in Berlin

20 September 2004


Germany's Neo-Nazi National Democratic Party made sweeping gains in important elections in the eastern state of Saxony yesterday after a shock protest vote that reflected the widespread unpopularity of Chancellor Gerhard Schröder's economic reform programme.

In the conservative-controlled state, the National Democrats (NPD) won seats in a regional state parliament for the first time in 36 years after the first exit-poll results showed that the party had won 9 per cent of the vote.

The extreme-right Deutsche Volks Union also retained seats in Brandenburg state elections. However Mr Schröder's Social Democrats remained the strongest party in the state despite substantial gains by the reformed-communist Party for Democratic Socialism (PDS.)

In Saxony, Mr Schröder's party suffered humiliating losses and emerged only half a point ahead of the NPD with 9.5 per cent of the vote. The state's conservative party lost its absolute majority and was expected to form a coalition with the liberal Free Democrats.

The NPD, which last entered a German state parliament in 1968, campaigned on a "German money for German interests" platform which included vigorous opposition to European Union enlargement, foreign immigration, and government plans to cut benefits for the long-term unemployed.

http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/story.jsp?story=563589

[Raimford]

I'm surprised that this subject has not raised any comment or questions.  Those that peruse Loader 3009's contributions should read Federick Roeter's book "Might is Right", published by Doubleday in 1939.  It's about how Hitler conned the German people into accepting his ideologies and using a National fever to gain absolute control over the German people.  He (Hitler) then used force to destroy all opposition. Other books of interest:"Fourth Reich of the Rich" by Des Griffin and "The Creature form Jekyll Island" by G. Edward Griffin.

"All who have meditated on the art of Governing mankind are convinced that the fate of empires depends on the education of youth"  Aristotle

[lgm270]

I'm unsure of the purpose of this thread.  

If Europe wants to take responsibility for its own defense, why is that a bad thing?

If German nationalists want to take back their country  why is that a bad thing?  

It's not Germans who are trying to take my guns, suppress my free speech rights,  and search my bank records and my home without a warrant...it's Republicans!

What is a "neo-Nazi" anyway....except someone who disagrees with liberals?  I hear this term used to insult people all the time yet no one ever defines what it means.  It's kind of like the word "racist"  (A racist is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal.)    

Hitler has been demonized because he lost WWII and his detractors wrote the history.  Before the war, Hitler was widely admired.  Writing of HItler in 1937, Churchill  praised his leadership and governance of Germany and opined that Britain could not wish for a better leader than Hitler if Britain were ever destroyed in major war. David Lloyd George, the WWI British Prime Minister, visited Germany in the 1930's and also praised Hitler lavishly for the quality of his leadership.  Hitler became a devil with horns and a tail only after he   died  and was not able to  defend himself.
Among the teeming masses groaning under the yoke of British colonialism and the British Empire, Hitler was regarded as a lchampion and millions of people in the Stalinist  empire regarded Hitler as a liberator.

Hitler's territorial ambitions in the east were no different in principle from American territorial ambitions in the west and British territorial ambitions all over the world.    

It's too bad Hitler lost.  If he had defeated Stalin, the US would not had to have spent the next half century fighting communism all over the world.  During the war, Hitler repeatedly tried to make peace with Britain.  Churchill refused.  Churchill's legacy as a war time leader was more important than making peace and saving the lives of hundreds of thousands of 18 year olds who had to die fighting a war to secure his legacy as a great war time leader.   WWII did not make the world safe for democracy...it made the world safe for Stalin and Mao Tze Tung.

Someday we may actually get an honest history of WWII, but for now  "Churhill's War" and "Hitler's War" by David Irving are a good place to start.

[williamlayton]

Nothing new under the sun but things forgotten.
Blessings

[fe352v8]

Millions of, death camp victims, would question your admiration.  Of course they were only the undesirables, dissidents, and non-Aryans.  Genocide has always been the tool of  the “enlightened”, whether it was Armenians in 1915, Jews, Gypsies, dissidents, homosexuals, or any other non-Aryan in the 1940s, Cambodians in the mid 1970s, Bosnians and Serbians in the 1980s and 90s, or Africans in the 1970s, 80s, 90s, and now.  Hitler was only one of a number of “great visionaries” who have yet to receive their “rightful place in history”.

“What is a neo-Nazi”; answer: an ignorant, uneducated, racially biased, bigoted, xenophobic, anti-democratic, anti-republic, anti-constitutional, sociopath, homicidal, totalitarian idiotic thug.

So shave your head, but on your brown shirt and swastika, burn a synagogue, murder, torture, and imprison somebody for disagreeing with you or being different, make a lamp shade out of human skin, and buy a cake, because Hitler’s birthday is April 20.

Life is no joke but funny things happen (unless you’re a Nazi, they are not fun people)

jon

[ShadowMover]

fe352v8, So you are a big fan of Ford big block design? I have a few myself.
You forgot to mention Stalin. Do a quick Google on Kulaks and see how he starved at least 4 millions. This doesn't even count Stalin's other purges. Of course there was Mao, who rang up a 20-30 million point total.  I'm not a big fan of getting dressed up and joining groups.

[lostone1413]

Stalin really killed more people then Hitler. Guess him being FDR friend made it all right. Lets not count how many died because we sold Europe out to Russia

[fe352v8]

ShadowMover  Lostone,

You are right I am not a fan of totalitarianism; regardless of it stated “noble intentions”.  I also think a disarmed and uninformed electorate, is but a short way from befalling to its’ “well intentioned” elected leadership.

Sold my last Ford big block, Galaxie convertible.  Bought a 64 Cutlass and dropped a 455 in it, should have kept the Ford, 13 mpg was better than 11 mpg.

I guess I am just an energy guzzling liberal Democrat, with Republican tendencies.

Life is no joke but funny things happen

jon

[ShadowMover]

I've noticed the press talking heads, and the movie people give a lot more time and rhetoric to Hitler than they ever give to old "Uncle Joe" Stalin, even though he killed more civilians than Hitler. Maybe it's the German's fancier uniforms and superior showmanship? Maybe it's because the media has been in bed with the left since the 1930s?  While Uncle Joe was starving millions our media was handing out Pulitzer Prizes to those who lied about it.
 If you want your blood boiled read Ann Coulter's book and then check out "The Venona Secrets" by Romerstein and Briendel to see how FDR and Truman went along with the Commies.  Americans died because of it, and we are still paying the costs.

[RupertBear]

If you want to talk about genocide.. don't forget killing off all the "savages" in the US.

Every "society" has had it's "atrocities" and because we are human and have all kinds of bigotries and hatreds there always will be.

[alsatian]

RupertBear:

Yes, Hermann Goering replied to his inquisitors at Nuremberg that the United States had taught the German leaders the meaning of genocide in their treatment of the American Indians.  I would argue that the treatment we meted out to the American Indians is not far removed from what Israel is doing with the Palestinians.  "Occupied territory" means you occupy and don't own the land.  Israel occupied Palestinian lands when Egypt and Syria attacked Israel -- not when Palestine attacked Israel.

I'm not sure where this thread started or where it is headed, but be forewarned that none of us should be too self-rightous.  There is plenty of guilt and blood on the hands to pass around.

[lgm270]

RupertBear:

I'm not sure where this thread started or where it is headed, but be forewarned that none of us should be too self-rightous.  There is plenty of guilt and blood on the hands to pass around.

Speak for yourself.

There may be blood on your hands and guilt on your shoulders, but not on mine. I am not guilty of the crimes committed by  people who died before I was born and neither is anyone else.

Civil rights and constitional governement were invented in the Unted States. They were not invented in Africa or Mexico.  If our country, our society and our way of life were not superior to theirs, they wouldn't be voting with their feet and coming here.    Of all the people  who told me that the US was no better than the Communists during the cold war, not a single one of those people ever  migrated to live under communism.   Of all the people who tell me about  the wonders of the "rich" culture of Mexico, none of them are pulling up stakes to move there.

Our country and way of life  will not exist if its citizens do not summon the courage, both moral and physical, to fight for it.  If people are brainwashed by some mind numbing psyho-babble about how we're all guilty, we're doombed as a country and a civilization.

[ShadowMover]

I have to agree about not sharing any guilt about what happened before you were an adult. People should give more than a passing thought to how their armies, money, and blood are used after they get old enough to vote.

Speaking of mass murders, we are coming up on May Day. Here is a guy who gives his estimates on the 63 Million killed by the Soviet Union. 43 million in Stalin's reign alone. Read it and weep.
http://freedomspeace.blogspot.com/2005/04/how-many-did-stalin-really-murder.html

From someone who lived it:
"How we burned in the prison camps later thinking: What would things have been like if...people had not simply sat there in their lairs,
paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door, at every step on the staircase...but had understood they had nothing to lose and had
boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of a half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?"

Alexander Solzhenitsyn

[FWiedner]

People should give more than a passing thought to how their armies, money, and blood are used after they get old enough to vote.

The statement kind of stuck in my craw.

I'm not trying to start anything, but what exactly are we, the American People, getting out of this war in Iraq?

Are we safer?  No.  Has terrorism been thwarted in any measure?  No.  Is the economy better?  No.  Is our oil supply secured?  No.

What exactly is in this for us?  What good reason is there for our young men in the military to be fighting, dying, and otherwise sacrificing themselves and our nation's fortune?

Frankly, I don't give a pink flying F about the Iraqi people or their freedom.  If they wanted it they would have been fighting for themselves a long time ago.

All that has been accomplished is that our childrens's, and our grandchildren's fortunes have been flushed down the toilet, and now even more muslims hate the US.  Our children will be paying the bills on this mess long after we are dead.

Anyway, I agree.  People should give more than a passing thought to how their armies, money, and blood are used after they get old enough to vote.

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