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Offline Bulldog

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« on: May 14, 2005, 08:54:34 AM »
I just purchased my first military rifle.  It is a Hungarian M44 made in 1954. It does not have the same nuber on receiver and bolt.  It acturally has two different #'s on bolt, one which has been crossed out.  The barrel looks like it has good rifling, but it is very dirty.  The pathces are coming out all black without any other color.  What is the best way to clean out the barrel?  Is there anything I need to do before I shoot it?  I would also appreciate information on what the rifle is worth.  Stock has dings and scratches, but nothing serious. Barrel bluing is only gone near the muzzle.
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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2005, 03:01:17 AM »
Bulldog;  Welcome to the military surplus forum and congrats on buying your first surplus gun too.  I use G.I. Rifle Bore Cleaner and i run wet patches thru it  first to soak it then I take a smaller bore brush and wrap a wet patch on it  and send it down the bore to scrub it.  Then i will run some dry patches on the smaller brush to wipe it clean.  Most of the time this does it.  Now as far as value it depends on the condition of the gun. If i remember correctly most of these were in "very good/good condition" thats how SOG rated them.  I think the list price on these were around $149.  Most gun shops here put a price range of $100 to $200 on all surplus guns.  These little guns make great tree stand guns too.  You can pick up some of the Russian made Barnaul 204gr. soft point ammo for like $6 a box too I believe www.sportsmansguide.com has this ammo.  The power of the 7,62x54 round is right in there between the 308 and 30-06.  You also have the cheap surplus ammo too but just clean it good after shooting it because of the corrosive primers used in surplus ammo. Surplus ammo can be found at www.aimsurplus.com too.   These little howitzers sure do bark too with a little more kick and if you shooting at dusk they make great flamethrowers too the muzzle flash is awesome!!!
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« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2005, 04:22:46 PM »
I finally got to shoot my new gun today.  It is shooting about 4 inches to the left with the open sights.  I have tried to move the front sight but have failed.  Could someone please help me.  I took the pin out just under it and it didn't work either.  Should I move it to the right to sight it in?
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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2005, 04:35:21 PM »
No, Drift the front sight to the left to move point of impact to the right!! I assume you got 'er clean.... Good for you as I know what a real pain this could be!!!   Marty
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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2005, 05:49:48 PM »
The pin is a stake pin to hold the sight assembly inplace put it back in and tap the front sight that is above the dovetail to move it. It may be tight but it will move. Use a hammer and a punch. Or if you can find one of those cheap front sight presses for the SKS I bet they would work too. Still a hammer and punch preferably brass or nylon will do it so it will not scratch the gun a wooden dowel works too though it is not as tough. Jim
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Said I never had much use for one, never said I didn't know how to use it.

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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2005, 06:04:12 PM »
Thanks guys.  Unforturnately I haven't gotten it as clean as I would lke.  I worked on it for an hour for the last three days and still black patches.  BigBill's advice really helped.  I think I am getting as much out as possible each time.  I just couldn't wait to shoot it.  The Czech ammo I used was corrosive, I believe, so I ran about ten patches through it afterward.  Sure don't want it to get any worse.
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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2005, 12:50:19 AM »
If you are shooting Czech Silver tips it a dirty ammo,, shoots well but is messy to clean up.. keep scrubbing that bore and remove as much jacket fouling as you can... The last 91/30 i bought took a week of scrubbing to get the barrel clean..
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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2005, 01:39:43 AM »
put a mojo sight on it - makes it much easier to adjust and see what your shooting at.  http://www.mojosights.com/index.html
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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2005, 03:54:19 AM »
If you like the hungarian M44 there's more 44's out there to collect!!! If your thinking of getting into surplus military gun collecting you have to get your C&RFFL it costs $30 for three years and you buy from dealers and wholesalers and it gets delivered to your door BBT  (UPS).  If you mail a copy of your C&R to midwayusa you get dealer prices from them too this si where the real savings begins too.                      BigBill
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