Author Topic: 1:24 Twist in .50 (Read 918 times)

River runner · « **on:** February 20, 2003, 08:18:58 PM »

Anyone familiar with the Remington Rolling Block look a like muzzle loader, in the Cabella's shooters catalogue?

It has a 26" .50 bore, 209 primer, with a 1:24 twist, is this the same twist that the 209X50 that TC had so much trouble with from an accuracy standpoint?

Any comments are more than welcome: RR

Bob_K · « **Reply #1 on:** February 21, 2003, 05:36:14 AM »

The TC twist problems I've seen discussed were all in their .45 caliber Encores, not their .50 cal. The Encore 209X.50 cal has a 1:28 twist.

simonkenton · « **Reply #2 on:** February 21, 2003, 06:47:12 AM »

Yes it was TC's twist in the .45 that turned out badly, and it was a 1:20 twist. What a 1:24 in a .50 would do I don't know. It is of interest that everybody else uses 1:28 or 1:32

River runner · « **Reply #3 on:** February 21, 2003, 06:56:12 AM »

According to that formula I got here on this forum (150X.50X.50 divided by twist of 24), it should be able to stabilize conicals up 1.5" in length. It's supposed to take a 150 grain equivalent of BP. I sure like the looks of that critter. RR

simonkenton · « **Reply #4 on:** February 21, 2003, 08:34:54 AM »

The hyperbole and bs in the muzzleloading industry today regarding "magnum" charges is bad. None of these .50s will burn 150 grains of powder. Around 30 grains of that will be blown out the barrel, unburned. Most guys see a decrease in accuracy at over 100 grains.

Underclocked · « **Reply #5 on:** February 21, 2003, 02:05:19 PM »

That's the twist rate White rifles uses, they are tack drivers! Of course White uses a 1:20 twist in the .45 caliber and they shoot great also, so more is involved than twist rate. Groove depth and width also have great influence on stability of the bullet.

River runner · « **Reply #6 on:** February 21, 2003, 02:46:12 PM »

I hear ya simonkenton, however, the powder companies, don't want to hear that stuff. In my .54 I use 80 grains with a patched rb (3F as it won't shoot 2F worth a hoot) and 90 grains 3F with a conical, and the recoil is punishing after 3 rounds. Can't see why ya would even want to touch off 150 grains in a shoulder weapon unless your into pain. Just cause it'll hold it don't mean to be shot in it.

Underclocked, thanks for the info on the twist rate, I kind of figured there had to be more to it than just twist rate, depth of the groove has to account for something.

I checked Cabella's web sight and it doesn't even list it, so it must be a new item. Really like the idea of a muzzle loader on the looks and action of a rolling block, with a 209 primer ignition to boot, guess that's why I liked the looks of the TC Scout which is now defunct. RR