Author Topic: Senate panel votes to expand Patriot Act  (Read 327 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline FWiedner

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1686
Senate panel votes to expand Patriot Act
« on: June 10, 2005, 03:36:17 AM »
Senate panel votes to expand Patriot Act

Forget scaling back the Patriot Act.

Instead, the controversial post-9/11 law would be expanded to give the FBI new powers to demand documents from companies without a judge's approval, according to a vote late Tuesday by the Senate Intelligence committee.

The final text of the Senate Intelligence committee's amendments was not immediately available (here's a draft dated last month), and reporters were barred from the secret session during which the vote was held.

But the proposal appears to grant the FBI more power to seek information from banks, hospitals, libraries, and so on through "administrative subpoenas" without prior judicial oversight. The subpoenas are only supposed to be used for terrorism or clandestine intelligence cases.

One other detail: the FBI may designate that the subpoenas are secret and punish disclosure of their existence with up to one year in prison (and five years if the disclosure is deemed to "obstruct an investigation.")

In testimony in April, FBI director Robert Mueller said: "The administrative subpoena power would be a valuable complement to (existing) tools and provide added efficiency to the FBI's ability to investigate and disrupt terrorism operations and our intelligence gathering efforts."

The ACLU denounced the Senate Intelligence committee's vote. "In a move antithetical to our Constitution, the new 'administrative subpoena' authority would let the FBI write and approve its own search orders for intelligence investigations, without prior judicial approval," the group said in a statement. "Americans have a reasonable expectation that their federal government will not gather records about their health, their wealth and the transactions of their daily life without probable cause of a crime and without a court order."

In theory, the expand-the-Patriot-Act bill now goes to the Senate floor for a vote. But some negotiations are likely to take place between the Intelligence and Judiciary committee, and that could affect the final form of the legislation.

http://news.com.com/2061-10789_3-5736302.html?part=rss&tag=5736302&subj=news

*FW Note:

Anybody feel a little bit less free today?  Do you have an odd sensation, like a noose tightening around your neck?

Does it make your feel "safer"?

 :evil:
They may talk of a "New Order" in the  world, but what they have in mind is only a revival of the oldest and worst tyranny.   No liberty, no religion, no hope.   It is an unholy alliance of power and pelf to dominate and to enslave the human race.

Offline ShadowMover

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 355
  • Gender: Male
Senate panel votes to expand Patriot Act
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2005, 03:57:22 AM »
FWeidner, I think you are right. They have the ball and are running with it.

See what Charley Reese has to say about this. I think you will find it eye opening, and after you Google around with the names he mentions, you will find it scary.
http://reese.king-online.com/Reese_20050610/index.php
and:
http://reese.king-online.com/Reese_20050530/index.php

Offline MATLOCK12C

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Avid Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 181
  • Gender: Male
Senate panel votes to expand Patriot Act
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2005, 05:13:30 PM »
:D  If your against this thing, :x   then get off your duff and call or write your represenative today and speak up. :lol:  Dont wait for the other guy to do it! :wink:
MATLOCK12C@AOL.Com

Remember, 95% of all energency room visits are made shortly AFTER this statement; HEY, Y'ALL WATCH THIS!  :shock:   :)  :)  :-D

Offline lostone1413

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Avid Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 197
Senate panel votes to expand Patriot Act
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2005, 01:31:50 PM »
You really believe that a call makes a difference? Not anymore! 80% want the borders close. Whats being done their. How many were against NAFTA ? We got it anyway. Now GWB wants free trade with Central America. The vast majority are against it Watch see if we get it. Both parties are run by the Elite They are so out of touch with the common man. How many in the Senate or Congress or GWB for that matter you think ever did one hard days work. We have become a country of the Elite by the Elite and for the Elite. Shame isn't it?