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« on: July 07, 2005, 05:01:38 AM »
i am new to all this h and r stuff...but my interest grows more and more every day....i bought the heavy barrel ultra in .223 and have since sent it back to get the heavy barrel .308 mounted to it as well....but the more i read i see that not as many people have ultras as they have handi's!  is it because of the vast number of barrels and calibers that can be fitted to the handi over the ultra..which brings me to my next question..why aren't there very many for the ultra??   and i can't see any difference between the handi's and the ultras besides the wood in the stock

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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2005, 05:13:25 AM »
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The handi and ultra barrels are interchangable.  The difference in the 2 models is cosmetic.  The ultras wear nicer stocks and appear to have a slightly more polished finish.  A new model handi or ultra can be fitted with any of H&R's centerfire rifle barrels, huntsman ML barrels, and all their shotgun barrels except 10ga or 12ga ultra slug.

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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2005, 05:14:05 AM »
The Handi and the Ultra are the same action. The Ultra models have a little nicer finish, thats all.
The Ultra is labeled directly under the H&R title, as the Handi is labeled under NEF. Most around here just refer to either as their Handi.
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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2005, 05:29:18 AM »
so if i sent my action back to h and r would they fit a handi caliber to my ultra or wouldn;t they?  because under ultra the only choices i have are .243, .223, .308, .25-06, and .450 marlin.......i would so much like to have a 45-70 gov't fitted to it but not sure if the factory would do it because of it being an ultra and not a handi

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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2005, 05:40:43 AM »
Yep, they will fit it. I just got a 30-06 UltraComp- a Handi barrel fitted to my Ultra frame.

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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2005, 06:06:34 AM »
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so if i sent my action back to h and r would they fit a handi caliber to my ultra or wouldn;t they?  because under ultra the only choices i have are .243, .223, .308, .25-06, and .450 marlin.......i would so much like to have a 45-70 gov't fitted to it but not sure if the factory would do it because of it being an ultra and not a handi


All of the asterisked marked barrels can only be fitted to frames made after 1997 or '98, the cutoff is right there somewhere, the only way to find out for sure is to call or email them, give them your frame serial number and ask if a certain barrel can be fitted to your frame. The list of production years for the serial number alpha prefixes is in the FAQ.


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« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2005, 08:28:31 AM »
my serial number starts with HU which tells me it's a 2004 so i should have no problem fitting any handi or ultra's to it correct?


i am seeing the 30-06 ultracomp on the barrel accesory page..whats the advantage of the ultra comp and are they still available?

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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2005, 08:55:04 AM »
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my serial number starts with HU which tells me it's a 2004 so i should have no problem fitting any handi or ultra's to it correct?
i am seeing the 30-06 ultracomp on the barrel accesory page..whats the advantage of the ultra comp and are they still available?


Don't you mean you're NOT seeing the Ultracomp barrel on the acc barrel page?? The Ultracomp barrel is a compensated or ported barrel, they had some in stock earlier in .270 and .30-06, they may or may not have any left, they're from a run a few years ago...the porting reduces muzzle jump and recoil....it also is quite loud to those standing to the side of the muzzle, but not much difference, if any, for the shooter. ....Yes, your frame can be fitted with an asterisked barrel.



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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2005, 09:21:54 AM »
your right i'm sorry i am NOT seeing it on the acc page...so pretty much i am out of luck for an ultra comp

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« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2005, 10:16:36 AM »
I'd call or email them and ask if they have any left, no one has said they were out of em yet.....they had 70 or so when we found out about em earlier this year.... :wink:

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« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2005, 10:40:44 AM »
The UltraComp barrels are absolutely great. If you ever wanted a large caliber rifle (270 or 30-06) with a muzzle break these are awesome. Very accurate and have hardly any kick. Though as quick said, man are they load :shock: .
I ordered mine about 2 months ago. They still had them then. Call and see. You won't regret buying one of these. I am glad I did.

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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2005, 11:04:44 AM »
assuming they do have them...then it comes down to which caliber...i have a 308..223..and 35rem in my cabinet now...with the 223 and 308 being on my ultra....always wanted a 30-06 for some reason

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« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2005, 11:09:05 AM »
I'd send em an email today asking if they have any left, the part number, price and provide your serial number so they know you have a new frame. They'll respond as soon as they come back to work..... next monday, I think!!

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« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2005, 11:15:18 AM »
just sent them an email..hope to hear from them soon...yea they don;t start back again until the 11th...i know because my gun missed being shipped back by one day   :(

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« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2005, 01:54:41 PM »
When I sent one of my frames in the first week of June they had a handful of ultracomps left in both calibers.

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« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2005, 02:44:31 PM »
how much were your guys .30-06 ultra-comps...i been spending a lot of money lately..they might be gone by the time i can budget another barrel!

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« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2005, 02:53:55 PM »
$100 plus the usual fitting and shipping...$125 plus the cost of shipping your frame.

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« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2005, 02:59:26 PM »
i'm probably gonna miss out  :(   and i don;t have any other guns i can part with to sell so i guess i am out of luck