Thanks Mac, just came off of the Ruger, Savage, and Rem web sites, 22" is standard for the Ruger and Savage, Rem puts a 24" on their 700 BDL. I think I will go for the .270 Ultra-comp, soon won't be able to get them, and .270 ammo can be purchased almost anywhere. Jack O'conner sure liked the .270. I think it is the barrel for me, I don't notice muzzle-blast when I am shooting at game anyway, just off the bench, will probably quit hunting when it bothers me.