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Offline indian*dave

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« on: July 13, 2005, 05:50:47 PM »
Can anybody give me any information about Hatfield rifles?  Who are they made by and what kind of quality? Where can you buy one or are they no longer made?  A guy I know told me they were over rated and over priced.  But I have seen his judgements before.
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« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2005, 11:29:40 AM »
Are you alking about the new Hatfields or the old Hatfields?  The old ones started out in St. Joe, Missouri and I believe ended up being made in SW Iowa.  I don't believe the old ones were either over rated or over priced as they were very nice, almost always accurate rifles.  I heard they were being made again and I believe Italy was quoted as the country of origin.  I can't imagine a Hatfield made in Italy being as good as the old ones Steve made, but, there are certainly some fine firearms made in Italy and I have a few!

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« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2005, 12:32:46 PM »
I have two original percussion Hatfield Mountain rifles in .50 and .54 cal. Both are great shooters and look very nice with fancy maple stocks and all browned furniture.

I also have both .36 and .50 cal Hatfield flintlocks made after Hatfield went out of business and other makers took over the Hatfield name. The flintlocks are not of the same quality of the original Hatfields, but are still very good rifles who ever they were made by.  

The rifles do seem to be a little overpriced sometimes, but if you keep an eye on Gunbroker and Auctionarms,you can find one for a good price. That's were I got all of mine.
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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2005, 01:53:42 PM »
INDIAN DAVE, PEDERSOLI MAKES THEM NOW AND CALLS THEM "FRONTIER" RIFLES. CABELAS SELLS THEM AS THEIR "BLUE RIDGE" RIFLE. DIXIE ALSO SELLS THEM. I HAVE TWO CURRENTLY, BOTH FLINTERS .36 CAL AND. 54 CAL. BOTH ARE GOOD SHOOTERS, LOOK KINDA PLAIN, NO MAPLE STOCK JUST WALNUT, BUT RELIABLE. CABELAS WANTS ABOUT $ 429.00 TO $ 450.00 AND HAVE PERCUSSION TOO.
HOPE THIS HELPS.
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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2005, 04:06:50 PM »
indian*dave,
 D.E.C. is  dreaming and  off topic.(besides, he never has figuerd-out Cap's lock is shouting!) According to DEC it's not a Hatfield, it's a "Frontier",,(wha?)

 You need to tell us what year "hatfield" your looking at,
 Tell ya what, your here,,so "goog" search hatfield rifle,, then come back and ask about jed,austin/hallick and steve. then maybe you can explain to d.e.c about missouri,??
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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2005, 02:49:48 AM »
Well pardon my limited typing skills. And no I'm not dreaming. Hatfield went out of business, became Austin-Halleck for some reason, but doesnt make the Hatfield rifle. Pedersoli makes the Hatfield style rifle and sells it as the Frontier. Cabelas also markets the rifle as the Blue Ridge rifle. From the pictures of Hatfields I'VE seen they had maple stocks and the Pedersoli has walnut.
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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2005, 01:47:51 PM »
[quote="D.E.C" Hatfield went out of business, became Austin-Halleck,,,,,, they had maple stocks,,,Pedersoli has walnut.,,,,,,,[/quote]

in regards to hatfield,,,,,,

close, but do another search. it's out there, get your facts straight. don't pass on stuff ya don't know.
 i like the part about the walnut an maple. but ya need ta know sum about "beechwood".(truth)(that be a tree,,they use it's wood for gunstocks).
 ya ever heard of missouri rifle co.? ever heard of a thing called a 'possibles bag"?
 Now ole'Jed', he ain't gonna care none, neither is Steve,, they be fat and happy. But, the least you could do is read a bit about current history. :P  :P
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« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2005, 03:36:26 PM »
Indian Dave, I would respectfully suggest that you ignore both "Lostid" and myself.  While I am trying to pass on information that may be useful, (mostly obtained from this forum) Lostid seems to have a personal agenda. I would suggest that you look at the Dixie Gun Works  and Cabelas online catalogs.  Respectfully D.E.C ,Kansas City Kansas
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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2005, 05:26:02 PM »
Quote from: D.E.C
 While I am trying to pass on information that may be useful, (mostly obtained from this forum),, Lostid seems to have a personal agenda.


 I have no agenda towards any of the members of this forum. or any others. I'm sorry if I dispell mis-information. GADD'S,!! I just like to stick with the truth and facts that is readily available on the internet and not provide false/faux information or gossip. I enjoy the "art" of shooting bp arms and the study of past/current history of the sport.. I really try to stay current on the subject,,
 dec? is there somthing Dixie or Cabelas can tell us about "hatfeild" rifles that's current?
i mean for goodness sakes a "blueridge" rifle is just that,,,,,please show me someware/somehow that all "blueridge" are now "hatfield"?? or that all hatfield are called blueridge??
 uuhhmm? I guess I don't get your point? sorry,,, I thought the topic was "Hatfield".
 I can buy a perisoli blueridge from dixie or cabelas tommorrow,,can i get a "hatfield" from them?????
 maybe i'm wrong. where you come from?? Are all long stock, long barreled flint locks called, "hatfields'??

(what did I do??hatfield, not pedrisoli??geezz!?)
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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2005, 09:30:09 PM »
Injun Dave,

I always thought Hatfield's were over priced.  Of course that was cause I couldn't afford one.  Otherwise I would own one now.  If you are looking for a Hatfield of the quality and looks made in the 80's, Gun Broker or Guns America should have one sooner or later.  But as the popularity of in-lines have changed the muzzle loader market, those shining times are past when a true Hatfield can be purchased new.  Just as the "Hawken" sold today is not a true "Hawken" so it is with the Hatfields.

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« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2005, 12:09:19 AM »
I have a long rifle, flintlock, .45 cal made in the early 80's from St. Jo that was hardly shot due to a blown main spring which Hatfield gladly replaced...what I had shot was very accurate, with the right loads...I broke my back just after receiving the rifle back and have only shot it a few times...I willing to accept offers...
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« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2005, 10:23:22 AM »
I don't know a whole lot about Hatfiels rifles, but I do know they are expensive, and some are even more expensive than others.

I saw this one for sale recently, and a lot to do was made over the fact it was pre 1966. I do believe it was mentioned that this was about the time the company changed hands...I'm not real sure on this, but I do know the asking price is a bit steep for this old boy. I didn't see all of that "box of goodies" he advertised, but it was a pretty small box.

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« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2005, 11:47:15 AM »
I purchased mine in the summer of 1986 and the Winter catalogue from Cabela's had them listed, if memory serves, for $999.99 with regular wood and $1,299.99 with deluxe wood, which is the model that I've got.  

I purchased a second  Hatfield rifle, the percussion, Hawken/Plains style in .50 cal, also with deluxe wood in the late Spring of 1987 but I don't remember what Cabela's wanted for them.

I'm not positive of the date but I noticed that Cabela's was no longer carrying the Hatfield line of guns in the Fall of 1988 or 9.  It could well have been 1990.  

I went direct to Hatfield to purchase my guns.
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