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Offline punisher

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« on: July 26, 2005, 12:58:45 AM »
Ready to purchase a pistol barrel for my Encore.
Will use this for deer/bear hunting.

Best choice ...

45-70
454
30-30
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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2005, 05:22:18 AM »
All three will work, just pick the one that you think you will shoot the best.  I always go with one I have experience with.  :D
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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2005, 06:04:45 AM »
If you reload you might want to consider a barrel chambered in 445 supermag.
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« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2005, 06:09:16 AM »
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I want to say first off i'm not predigest but i think the 45-70 would do you a good job, Just kidding any one of the three should work fine.............Joe..........
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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2005, 07:14:42 AM »
I have a 45-70 Contender that I use for  deer. I have an Encore frame and sometimes consider getting a .454 barrel for it. But then again the 45-70 has worked well for me and I think "why?", the .454 couldn't work any better.
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« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2005, 11:53:30 AM »
I am curious? What kind of load do your use with a .45-.70 contender? Do use the same round you would use for a rifle or do you have it handloaded with lees powder?

I can shoot a pistol gripped shotgun like a pistol, but the thought of a .45-.70 makes my wrists hurt!
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« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2005, 12:10:43 PM »
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I am curious? What kind of load do your use with a .45-.70 contender? Do use the same round you would use for a rifle or do you have it handloaded with lees powder?

I can shoot a pistol gripped shotgun like a pistol, but the thought of a .45-.70 makes my wrists hurt!


 You don't want to reload in the Ruger #1 Load data. Stay in the trapdoor range or the light side of the Marlin load range.
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« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2005, 01:00:20 PM »
can you use the  Ruger #1 Load data for the encore handuns?
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« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2005, 01:21:01 PM »
All of the calibers you post are great deer rounds.  Personally
i like the 454 as I like the bullet diamater and would not feel under powered shooting most anything.

Depending on if you reload or not, I would choose the lighter loads in the 45-70. as it may be a bit punishing for a deer or black bear.   The 350 grain 1895 loading will completely penetrate a mature Alaskan bull moose, breaking both shoulders!

be careful and double check
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« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2005, 03:43:19 PM »
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I am curious? What kind of load do your use with a .45-.70 contender? Do use the same round you would use for a rifle or do you have it handloaded with lees powder?

I can shoot a pistol gripped shotgun like a pistol, but the thought of a .45-.70 makes my wrists hurt!


 I load 59grs. of Accurate 2015BR behind a 300gr. Hornady JHP for 1600 fps from a 12" Contender barrel. This same load does about 1860fps from a Marlin Guide Gun.
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« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2005, 04:27:15 PM »
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can you use the  Ruger #1 Load data for the encore handuns?


I suggest you call T/C on that one.  :D
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« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2005, 04:33:06 PM »
I cast my vote for 454.  I am not an Encore owner/shooter, but I would gather that it would have the flexibility like others chambered in 454...shooting 45 Colt.
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« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2005, 05:49:44 PM »
Keoni

Seem to me that load would tear some thing up that it wasn't ment to be torn up !!!!!

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« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2005, 04:06:33 PM »
Quote from: RedRyder21
I am curious? What kind of load do your use with a .45-.70 contender? Do use the same round you would use for a rifle or do you have it handloaded with lees powder?

I can shoot a pistol gripped shotgun like a pistol, but the thought of a .45-.70 makes my wrists hurt!


On another forum, I mentioned that I had shot a T/C .45/70 with one hand and got a reply that I must of shot whimpy factory loads and to try his, which must of been a real wrist wrench? Factory is not whimpy in one of these things, believe me.
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« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2005, 06:00:38 PM »
:cb2: .30-30 with a 1 in 10 twist. Accurate, efficient, and easier on the body.
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« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2005, 05:38:43 AM »
The Hornady manual shows loads for the 45/70 in a t/c Contender and if  you match them up they are equal to there trap door loads. with some loads at start to mid lever action loads.
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« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2005, 06:02:08 AM »
might look at the 308 instead of the 30-30. same bullet with better velocities .
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« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2005, 06:03:07 AM »
All great rounds but what about the 7mm08. Awesome!
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« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2005, 03:45:06 PM »
I like efficient cartrdiges and 7mm's are very efficient.  Unless you like wild recoil, you can get this job done with less than 45-70 or 454; the latter out of an Encore...well, it eliminates the need for a cup of coffee to wake you up.

The 7-30 Waters or 7-08 are great cartridges and plenty up to the task with proper loads.  Unless your after big bears with a hump between their shoulders.
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