Thompson "tommy gun" 45acp

[1911crazy]

There's a tommy gun parts kit at sarco for $499 it was in the shotgun blues(news).  And there are new recievers being manufactured for $1,500 so you can build a tommy gun like the sarge had on Combat with a select fire mode too. I guess you just have to pay the $500 a year tax to own it.
Has anyone look at this or done it yet?  :eek:
What do ya think Mikey? Sorry for bothering you so much.

Its a little rich for me but it sure would be neat in the apple orchard when the chipmunks are uprising (kidding)

[Buford]

You might try a semi-auto version, still a lot of fun[/img]

[1911crazy]

I shot a M14 select-fire a while back and that was a hoot to shoot too but the barrel rise would take some time to learn how to handle it but the down fall was the 9k price tag too. Thats a whole lotta surpls mosins? But there is a problem too if its been hammer with the headspace too. The select-fire 45acp Thompson is a lot cheaper but its the yearly tax that bites. I guess the last thing is the semi-auto but firing the full auto is really neat.

[CAV Trooper]

There's no yearly tax on Title II NFA firearms (aka class 3 or full auto/select fire). It's simply a ONE-TIME $200 transfer tax when you purchase the weapon. The reason prices are so high these days is that thanks to the 1986 GCA thereÂ’s only a limited supply of registered, transferable machineguns available on the market and any machinegun built after 1986 canÂ’t be transferred to civilians. Only LE, government agencys and the military can buy newly manufactured machineguns.

In order to build a new Thompson right now, you'd first have to be licensed as a Type 1, Class III dealer AND a Type 7, Class II Manufacturer. The fee for these two licenses is $350 (total) for the first three years. That doesn't sound too bad does it?

But wait, there's more...

You can't work out of your house. As a dealer, you have to have a storefront with access to the public. This requires state and local licensing.

It gets better...

Then, since you'd be building a new machinegun, you have to have a letter from a LE agency requesting a demonstration of the weapon. After the demo, if they didn't buy it, the gun would have to be destroyed. It can't be kept "in the collection".

Oh, yeah...and donÂ’t forget, once you do get the proper licenses, you can expect to be visited by your friendly BATF agent on a regular basis.

The last piece of good news is:

 Â“A Class 3 Federal Firearms License is required for dealing, manufacturing, and importing firearms for the express purpose of revenue generation - not collecting. It is a felony to obtain a Class 3 License for the purpose of enhancing your collection.”

Sure miss the good old days.  :cry:

[1911crazy]

My dealer has the license to manufacturer and he is making the recievers. The gun is assembled from a WW2 parts kit. He said its legal to own.

[CAV Trooper]

My dealer has the license to manufacturer and he is making the recievers. The gun is assembled from a WW2 parts kit. He said its legal to own.

It is legal to own as a semi-auto (only) SBR after you get the transfer approved by the ATF ($200). As a new full auto weapon it is not legal for transfer to, or ownership by, a civilian at any price.

From Guncite.com:
"Since the Firearms Owners' Protection Act of May 19, 1986, ownership of newly manufactured machine guns has been prohibited to civilians. Machine guns which were manufactured prior to the Act's passage are regulated under the National Firearms Act, but those manufactured after the ban cannot ordinarily be sold to or owned by civilians."

Don't take my word for it. Write to the BATF and ask them.

[Mikey]

BigBill - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! - Not another Thompson.  Oh Lordy but they were something.  I think if I ever wanted to play with another full-auto in 45 acp caliber it would be the M3 - lighter to carry and I thought easier to shoot.  Always did a better job of clearing hootches - almost as good as some of the cut-down M2 Carbines we used to use.  

And yes, the full auto tax stamps are pretty expensive and you would have to add that to the change of life-style costs you would have to incur to support the feeding habits of a Thompson.  And the neighbors always complain about the noise (lol).  Hope all is well.  Mikey.

[patm41]

Mikey..
just to get ya droolin...


This one belongs to a friend of mine,, sure is fun to shoot.. !!  
only problem,,, it was not cheap...  

[1911crazy]

patm41 Those were made by GM at their lamp division. Was that the first metal stamped american made machine gun?  The only other metal stamped WW2 gun is the single shot 45acp handgun that "was used to get a gun" it was advertised as. I forget what it was called but its worth big bucks today to collectors.   And the russians had stamped metal machine guns too.  They had machine gun squads in WW2.  They kicked the Germans butt.  I think everyone was lucky that Hitler didn't produce enough of the STG44's if he had seen the first hand knowledge of the very first assualt rifle the war could of had a different outcome or lets say the ground war would of been tougher because our air power was better.

BTW;  Steve McQueen used one of those in what movie?  The other actors in that movie was Fess Parker, Bobby Daren(the mack the knife guy) I can't remeber the rest of them. I have the movie somehwere here.

[patm41]

Bill you are correct.. The M3a1  is all stamped and This one was made by General Motors Guide Lamp Division.. This one has the hole in the bolt to cock it unlike the M3 which had a lever and linkage to cock it with.. there is even a oil can thats built in the pistol grip that has a needle where you can dip in and lube gun with..  
Its slow rate of fire is what makes it fun , with a bit of practice you can actually fire it single shot..

[Mikey]

patm41 - Not Fair, dang it, but that sure looks a lot like the ones I used to carry and yes, they are so slow to fire that you can actually fire them signle shot or semi auto.  And that one sure is purdy.

Funny thing about sub-machine guns.  They have these stocks that very few people actually use and make the mistake of thinking they can get some accuracy from shooting from the hip or walking the slugs into the target.  The barrels on those M3s and on the Thompsons will sure take a nose dive as that 'heavier than a brick' bolt chambers and fires a round, but you can control that with good stock use.  With practice you can be very accurate with those things.  And yes, I am droolin'.  Mikey.

[1911crazy]

BTW; The movie is "Hell is for Hero's"  with Nick Adams and Bob Newhart and more too its a good army flick.  McQueen uses the old GM guide lamp machine gun.

Didn't this one get the phrase GREASE GUN??  It looks like a grease gun right?