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Offline Mitch

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Model 66-2 a good purchase?
« on: October 08, 2005, 11:54:49 PM »
Hello everyone. I was wondering if any of you folks have any experience with the above mentioned S&W. I know that the model 66 was the police revolver in stainless steel, but I can't seem to dig up what the -2 might mean.
 
It's for sale in a local gun shop for $400. It has wood grips, a 4" barrel and is stamped with "foregin markings". The gun store fella said he didn't know what country they were from, just that at some point the gun was in a foregin country.  
 
I'm kind of new to the whole handgun scene, so I'm not quite sure how to grade it, but it seems in good shape, I didn't seen any wear or major scratches on it.
 
I don't think I will carry it, it seems kind of big for that, and I'm well, not :) (I'm planning on getting a 642 or Ruger SP101 for that) I would probably keep it for a fun gun or a nightstand gun.
 
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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2005, 03:22:46 AM »
You didn't mention price or just what the "foreign" markings might be.

But the Model 66 is my favorite .357 Magnum revolver. I prefer the 6" barrel which S&W hasn't made in a lot of years. They may still be making the 4", not certain of that tho but it was the last version they made.

Some folks get all hung up on dash numbers but I don't. Each new dash number indicates some change S&W made in the production. The info is out there if you look hard enough as to what each dash number means with each model. I've just never concerned myself about it.

There was a time when a foreign company (Bangor Punta) owned S&W but there were no foreign markings on it. Guess I dunno what to make of them. What do they look like? Might be a foreign proof mark if the gun at one time had been imported to some other country. But the fact it's back here makes me question the liklihood of that.

Around here prices run from $325 to over $450 depending on who has it and how bad they want to sell it.


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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2005, 07:37:54 AM »
FYI, any US made gun that was exported to a foreign country then imported back to the US must have a stamp from the company that imported it. Seems crazy but that's the law.

Several companies such as CDNN, buy used military or police guns from foreign countries then resell them here in the US. For the most part, these guns are identical to the ones that were originally sold in the US. You do find some non-standard things such as lanyard rings, different sights or grips, and odd barrel lengths. A bunch of S&W Model 10s have been on the market lately with 3" barrels that were imported from the Far East, a real oddity.

As Graybeard said, the dash number indicates an engineering change. Older S&Ws didn't have a model number stamped on their guns. Beginning in 1959, all S&W guns were identified by model numbers instead of names (like Masterpiece, M&P, etc). All previous guns and any new models always started with the basic model number such as Mod 10. When a change was made where some part was not compatible with the previous part, a dash number was issued. Most of the engineering changes were not improvements, rather a way to reduce manufacturing costs. Typically, the lower the dash number, the better the gun.

Though dash number aren't all that important, you (or your gunsmith) really need to know what dash number you have when you order replacement parts.

There are a lot of variations on the Mod 66. It is a twin of the blued Mod 19. These are some of the finest guns S&W ever made. Unfortunately, S&W discontinued them so we are seeing prices climb.
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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2005, 10:23:27 AM »
It's $400.

The markings are real small, on the bottom of the barrel near the frame, and another near the trigger guard. I can't make out what they are supposed to be with the naked eye, I could probably seem them better with a magnifying glass.

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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2005, 01:24:48 PM »
Mitch, Something I forgot. Many countries proof test all guns before they are issued. This was policy with England and other Crown Colonies. You may see both an import stamp and a proof stamp.

$400 is on the high side but not bad if the gun is in really good condition. Guns are graded mostly on cosmetics and an assumption that they are in good working condition. Any rust, pitting, scratches, dings and wear marks will lower the rating and the value. For $400, it should have pristine wood grips, minimal turn line on the cylinder, and no scratches or dings. The bluing on the sights should be dark. The cylinder chambers and bore should be bright and free of damage. An operational test should be performed to see if the timing, lock-up, cylinder side play, endshake, cylinder gap, etc are all in spec. You wouldn't want to pay top dollar then have to pay a gunsmith to repair it.
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« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2005, 02:34:00 PM »
Iowegan covered a lot  of ground and I have learned to pay attention when he writes. :-) here's a brief web site  for S&W model changes, close to the bottom of page will have your 66-2.

http://www.handloads.org/misc/Smith.Model.Changes.asp

 I had recently purchased a 66-0 in nice condition a few months ago for $250., but the normal prices seem to be around $300 to $ 400 depending on it's condition here in Texas. Saw the another  66-0 in rough condition at a local gun show for $325, sellar would not come down any, and still had at the last two shows I went to. So he may have that much in it or just sticking to his original price and thats OK.

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« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2005, 07:36:32 PM »
:cb2: I have a 3" 66 with night sights which is my bedside, and out-of-town-travel gun. Love my 2.5", 3", and 4" K-frames. Don't think you could ever go wrong with any of them.
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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2005, 02:48:58 AM »
Thanks everyone for the replies. I may go back and look at it tomorrow, or wait until the next gun show comes to town on Nov 5... I'm just a little edgy about getting taken advantage of at a gun show.
 
I was a bit worried about something being wrong with it but from reading about how S&W supports their products, thats not my main concern anymore; instead its the fact that there so many nice guns to choose from!
 
SW9VE
SW40VE
S&W 642
S&W 66
S&W M&P
S&W bodyguard
Kahr PM9
Ruger SP101
Sig p229
 
Decisions, decisions...