I run the lubed 30-30 brass into the 7-30 sizing die. This puts what looks like a stepped shoulder on the brass. I am shooting a 14" contender barrel and use the fireform process for practice. This barrel is reasonably accurate and will shoot 1" groups at 100yds, if I can hold it steady. It will do it while i am fireforming also, but most groups fireforming are between 1 1/2" and 2". I shoot it off-hand, and supported on shooting sticks to shoot metal targets, (turkey, fox, and crow) at 200 yds. Don't miss many. I use the turkey off-hand, its bigger. I have some 7-30 brass and can't tell any difference between it and the 30-30 fireforemed Good luck.