Poncaguy, I hOPE the new Simmons are better than the old ones.I tried a simmons 2x6 on my 7x30 waters barrel and almost traded it off. Swapped the Simmons for my 2.5x8 Leupold And started shooting MOA or less ,Same ammo and every thing.Put the Simmons on the 6.5 barrel and shot 2-3 inch groups. My burris 2x6's are much easier to acquire the target with.