Author Topic: Bore damage question........advice sought (Read 763 times)

zeussau · « **on:** September 12, 2005, 02:14:15 AM »

I recently bought a new rifle with a stainless barrel in REM .223 caliber
After firing 25-30 rounds of remington accutip thru it i noticed that on cleaning it the patch seemed quite tight about halfway thru the barrel.
On examination i saw what looked like a piece of metal projecting from the rifling,on examining the patch/jag/cleaning rod i noticed that the stainless rod was scratched presumably from the piece of metal in the bore!!(put another patch thru and another scratch on the rod!!)
I have had the gun back to the supplier and they have had a look at it and say that it looks like i have damaged the bore with a cleaning rod!
Now i am no gunsmith but am very particular with my rifles and have never had any problem before(7 other guns)the rod is a kleenbore stainless item designed for .22-.45 caliber and was not cheap or inferior quality,it remains as straight as a die,the jag is made of brass and the patches were all pre-cut
I fail to see how even if i tried to i could gouge the bore halfway up with this set up.
can anyone offer any advice or opinions?

thanks guys

lefty o · « **Reply #1 on:** September 12, 2005, 06:57:18 AM »

without seeing it, i would speculate that it is a piece of tooling used to rifle the barrel that broke off during manufacturing.

gunnut69 · « **Reply #2 on:** September 12, 2005, 08:24:34 AM »

It may be a piece of tooling left in the bore but most likely is a piece of the barrel itself. The barrel blank likely had a lamination or structural defect and through firing and cleaning the piece of material pulled away and is protruding. Firstly under no circumstances should this rifle be fired... Secondly I'd give Remington a call as if it is a seperated lamination the barrel may be seriously weakened. It could quite literally explode when fired. Contact reminton customer service and tell them exactly what you've told us here. I would expect them to be happy to help if nothing else to limit their legal exposure.. Keep us informed as to the outcome.

CowboyEngr · « **Reply #3 on:** September 13, 2005, 02:30:10 AM »

I doubt seriously that you would have done that type of damage to the bore with a cleaning rod. Like the others have said, it is probably a manufacturing problem and they should make it right. Try to work it out through the dealer or the gun maker. If they won't make it right, write them off. Then take it to a gunsmith and have it checked for safety. He may be able to lap it out, or tell you how to. If the gunsmith thinks it's safe, just shoot it. Often, damaged barrels still shoot quite well. As long as the damage is not right at the crown, it probably will.

gunnut69 · « **Reply #4 on:** September 13, 2005, 05:00:56 AM »

If the damage to the bore is scratching the cleaning rod, it will certainly do bad things to a bullet. Even if the smith could remove it the integrity of the bullet will likely be affected. Remington should be glad to get the chance to correct the problem. If their negligence allowed a barrel thru with a lamination it could get expensive quickly in court. Sako recently recalled a but of rifles that were failing catastrophically. The barrels contained inclusions or laminations that were allowing the barrels to split or rupture under load. The result of course is what seems like a fairly good sized explosion. Call Remington custom service and don't shoot that rifle until it's taken care of. Please keep us informed as to the outcome...

bluebayou · « **Reply #5 on:** September 15, 2005, 07:03:42 PM »

Send it to Remington, they were more than happy to replace a 308 that I had with miscut rifling.

zeussau · « **Reply #6 on:** September 16, 2005, 07:12:03 AM »

from the sounds of their service i wish the gun was a remington but it's not

gunnut69 · « **Reply #7 on:** September 17, 2005, 12:13:57 PM »

Who might we ask is the maker and was this a new rifle when it came to you? Where was the rifle purchased? They also have a stake is makinbg sure the rifle is safe. To do less is to invite lawsuits..