Tier Two Hunts

[Born2shoot48]

Boy what a line of bull!   It is the biggest scam of all time in Alaska.  I hunted the Nelchina herd many years without a problem.  Then it changed to tier two subsistence.  These supposed subsistence hunters pull up in $50,000 trucks with a $10,000 track vehicle on the back, yet they fill out the Tier Two application and you would think that they are welfare recipients.  It is time to take it back to a Tier One drawing.  To many fraudulent applications go unchecked.

[Daveinthebush]

I agree that the system has to be reworked.  I help with a fish wheel on the Cooper River sometimes and subsistance wheel people pull up in $125,000 motor homes and camp out all summer.  

One of the biologist in Glennallen says that a guy from Barrow comes down every year to subsistance hunt the caribou herd.  If he can afford to fly to Fairbanks and drive to Glenallen I don't think he is subsistance meat hunting.  It would be cheaper to buy the meat or hunt up in Barrow.

I know of one person, state worker with his wife a state worker and he maintains a very rural mailbox, even though he does not live there, just so he can get Tier II and subsistance.

If all subsistance hunters were checked for their qualifications there would be a lot less subsistance hunters out there.

[Winter Hawk]

The way subsistence is now is a joke.  Thanks, Congress!  Subsistence license used to be $.25 for hunting, trapping & fishing, if you made less than $3600 or were on public assistance of some kind (food stamps or welfare).  Then some (unnamed) groups pushed through subsistence in ANILCA without defining it, and now we have this mess where the courts have interpretted what it should be.  If Stevens, Murkowski, Young & Co. would step up to the plate and get a decent  definition run through congress we might be able to get a better handle on this.  But that would cost some of the rural vote...

-WH-

[Moose-Hunter]

I think it's a scam, this whole Tier II bull crap. I'm at the point now, where I feel I should go hunt that herd with or without a permit.

[Daveinthebush]

While you might feel that you have the right, until the laws are changed you will be fined.  Below is the link to the State Policelisting the daily violations.  On todays date, they charged 2 men from Anchorage for doing what your suggesting.  This moose season in Unit 13 I could hear the State Police helicopter almost daily checking on things.

http://www.dps.state.ak.us/pio/dispatch/index.asp

[Moose-Hunter]

Dave,

That was just really a figure or speech, or tongue cheek comment. I wouldn't hunt that caribou herd unless I had a permit that legally stated that I can. Until then, I'll just watch all the other "subsistence" hunters enjoy it.

[Daveinthebush]

Just the facts.  Don't know which comment you were refering too but both are true.  The State Police reports confirm the one comment.  The other about the helicopter......I watched them on several evenings in my area as one side of the road is non-motorized and the other is motorized.  Cabela's 10X bino's.  

I had two friends in the non-motorized area walk in for  2 1/2 days and when they came out F&G were at their truck waiting to question them.  Right there!