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Refilling One Pound propane tanks
« on: September 20, 2005, 12:02:48 PM »
I was wondering if anyone besides me has ever refilled those little one pound propane cans from a 20 pound BBQ tank?  I have one of those adaptors that I modified for ease of use. I also use a small pair of those cheap hemostats to pull the vent valve up a little, to let out the propane gas while I'm filling them. I guess they will fill up without doing that if you want to wait all day.  
I've refilled the same tanks many times and have picked up a bunch of discarded ones. I have about a dozen now and they sure are nice when you walk down the isles at Walmart and see $2 printed on them.  I'd like to hear what everyone else is doing.

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« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2005, 01:49:12 PM »
it is aginst the law to transport hem in a vehicle per DOT regs

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« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2005, 01:50:57 PM »
Dude..you're doing it the hard way.  I have the adapter too.  The instuctions that came with it said to put the small bottle in the freezer overnight.  Hook it up with the big tank upside down so it is delivering liquid only.  When you freeze the tank to be filled...for some reason it sucks the liquid in real fast and is completely full....really weird, but it works.  I made my first adapter and did it the same way you are doing it....the wrong way.  You're gonna love it.
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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2005, 03:05:23 PM »
Thanks for the tip on freezing the smaller tanks. If I'd thought about it I'd have realized it. :wink:   Mine never came with any instructions.  It lowers the pressure inside the tank compared to the liquid tank at ambient outside temperature. I'll give it a try.  I also tip the big tank upside down and I have a right angle adapter I made for the purpose of keeping the small tank vertical while the tank is upside down and it hangs over the edge of my OUTSIDE work bench. I never fill them indoors.

Oh yes, I never transport or sell them. I wouldn't want to run into any problems with Uncle Sam's rules on Interstate Commerce.

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« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2005, 05:21:50 AM »
D'uh....how would anyone know if they were refilled, and why would anyone bother to make such a nit-pick law?  I am not iencouraging any illegal activity....just wondering why government would spend time on trivial garbage like that.
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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2005, 06:13:30 AM »
The only way they might know they are refilled is if you write the date and weight on the outside of the tank. I mark mine and weigh them so I know how much is in them. They all weigh about 450 grams, about a pound, empty. When full they weigh about 970-1000 grams or about 2 pounds.

I was being polite about the DOT rules, as I don't want to cause any trouble for the site host. I believe they are there to prevent people from making a business of refilling the tanks and transporting them in commerce. I may be off base, but aren't these rules just for commercial vehicles?

The biggest problem I've run into is keeping the valves clean. If you get crud, rust, or sawdust into the valve area it could be carried into the gas appliance and plug it up.   :( The tiny orifices are very prone to blockage. I always blow a little propane or air through a valve before connecting it, to blow out dust or bugs. Keep the little protective caps for storage, and give the tanks a good sniff test a few hours after refilling and before putting them away for storage. If they smell they are leaking. A little soapy water or spit will show you where. Don't leave soap or spit in the valves.

Anyway, I use propane motor fuel in one of my rigs and it's convenient to fill my BBQ tanks using the liquid line from the big tank, and fill the smaller ones from the BBQ tanks.

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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2005, 06:48:38 AM »
I have no idea how they could tell or why they made such a law. Maybe the people that make the 1 lb cylinders pushed for this saying that a refilled cylinder is unsafe. this way they can kep up sales.

I have been thinking about getting one of the small heaters for use in my deer standand using the refilling system to keep the1 lb takns full in hopes of making it a little warmer