Author Topic: Huntsman rusting (Read 885 times)

blackpowder man 0106 · « **on:** September 17, 2005, 03:16:20 PM »

I'm having incredibly bad problems with my huntsman. It's just about one of the worst guns I ever owned. Seems to me like rust is attracted to the bore and breech plug area. No matter what I do, I always find some rust on it. Unless i take it out daily this will have some rust. I have tried storing without the breech plug and keeping the breech open. This does nothing. I've tried basically soaking the gun in WD40 and other rust preventive oils. nothing there either. any suggestions, im about to get rid of this thing. i wipe down my gun after ievery use as well as cleaning it every time i fire it.

also found it is very inconsistent when it comes to shooting. first shot is always way off when the barrel is cold, so how does this help me when i'm hunting? i cant feel confident taking a shot with this gun, so it's useless to me. i even replaced the sights after the peice of junk old ones died on me.

i need help here, i dont feel like spending 250-300 for a new thompson center gun

mt_jeep · « **Reply #1 on:** September 18, 2005, 06:09:13 AM »

I'm pretty new here, but I've been muzzleloading off and on since 1980 and have never experienced a problem like you're having. I currently have a Sidekick and I'm having none of the problems you're having.

Perhaps it's the way you're treating your gun that is causing the problem. For example, I recall reading that you should never use petroleum-based products (esp WD-40) on your muzzleloader (in the bore). Do a search here and go to chuckhawks.com where they have some articles on the "basics" of ML care. I myself use Butch's Bore Shine at the range. After "washing" it with soap and boiling water I let it dry a couple of minutes and apply Wonder Lube. No problems yet, but then I live in a dry climate too.

To be honest, I don't think it's your Huntsman.

Good luck... hope you get it figured out.

poncaguy · « **Reply #2 on:** September 18, 2005, 06:24:24 AM »

Tradations Pursiut LT, very accurate and around $200........I use Rem Oil on the outside of my blackpowder rifles (3).........no rust, and bore butter in the barrel....

MSP Ret · « **Reply #3 on:** September 18, 2005, 09:39:38 AM »

I use "1000 and 1" Natural Lube, (Bore Butter is the same thing) on the inside and outside of all my ML's after cleaning with hot soapy then hot clear water. I put the"Natural Lube" on the wood as well as the metal, no rust at all, ever, and the wood looks great too!!!....<><.... :grin:

mangulator · « **Reply #4 on:** September 18, 2005, 11:21:58 AM »

Like, MSP Ret states Thompson's Bore Butter is the way to go.. Good cleaning and then the Bore Butter inside and outside the gun.

Also, foul your barrel with a primer when you get ready to shoot your first shot and that may help on the accuracy of the first shot.

savageT · « **Reply #5 on:** September 18, 2005, 11:45:46 AM »

bp man,
Let's sit down a minute and think this through.........5,4,3,2,1. OK, now deep breath and blow it out!
First off, LOSE the WD40...worst stuff in the world for any firearm, got it??? Now, if there is a humidity problem with just your muzzleloader and just the muzzleloader, then it must be one of two problems. One: You're not getting it clean sufficiently (ie. a good hot water and soap bore flushing) and leaving behind a residue of black powder or bp substitute or reason #TWO: Your preservative is NG and not displacing the water as it should. Try Ballistol as a final pass through for light cleanings. Can be used on everything including the stock and leather strap too.
I'm a firm believer in storing my firearms after a good cleaning using Vasoline Petroleum Jelly or RIG......nothing better!!!!!!! Yes it is a petroleum product, but when you want to get ready for the next "season", just clean the bore with a good solvent like #9 Hoppes or my favorite is "Ed's Red". Then de-grease the bore with Windex or rubbing alcohol before firing a couple percussion caps to lightly clean the bore and firepath and you are ready to load for the first round. I spit patch each and every time between reloads and there you have it. Keep it Simple........ and you won't go wrong!

Jim

DaveH · « **Reply #6 on:** September 19, 2005, 01:56:39 PM »

blackpowder man 0106

WD40 is a NOGO for any type of firearm. Its good for squicky door hings and things but not guns. Like said above I use bore butter inside the barrel and I lightly coat the outside with dusty duck I have ever had a problem with rust. Also like above I use warm water with a small amount of dish soap then cool clear water. I follow this with a dose of windex to displace the water then I store the barrel over night muzzle down (off the reciever)