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« Reply #30 on: June 10, 2005, 10:22:16 AM »
I don't doubt you read it. I'm just sure the paper had their facts wrong.
I know that hardly ever happens. :wink:  Just ask Newsweek or the NY Times. :roll:

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« Reply #31 on: June 10, 2005, 11:31:47 AM »
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I don't doubt you read it. I'm just sure the paper had their facts wrong.
I know that hardly ever happens. :wink:  Just ask Newsweek or the NY Times. :roll:


OK you win.  :roll:
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Serialize bullets?
« Reply #32 on: June 20, 2005, 01:50:08 PM »
These fools will do just that-- It has passed in CA- in effect, will outlaw ALL handloading, on top of everything else. Ammo makers will not bite the bullet (pun intended) on this one,they will just stop selling in MD. Will serve them right if LE cannot get any ammo either. The fools that endorse this have the heads in their respective a---- if you get my drift. Guess the will also have (bullet police ) at the borders next. Enough to make you puke.  :evil:



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« Reply #33 on: June 21, 2005, 09:48:20 AM »
Our only hope in the PR of Calixico is for our RINO governor to show some chutspah and vetoe it, but I'm not counting on it.  This may be the anvil that breaks the camel's back for me.  I've been wanting to move out of this squirrel cage for years and maybe its time to pull up and get out.
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« Reply #34 on: June 22, 2005, 07:37:29 AM »
Just the fact that a piece of legislation like this can get out of COMMITTEE is beyond belief.  Even Hollyweird hasn't dreamt up anything this bizarre for awhile.  Yet these political wackos who don't know anything about anything have decided it will work.  Where do these politicos come from, Moronia?  Geez....
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« Reply #35 on: June 22, 2005, 07:46:31 AM »
They don't want it to work.
I believe it's just a backdoor way to deprive the people of firearms.
And people used to laugh at the NRA's slippery slope rhetoric.

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« Reply #36 on: June 22, 2005, 01:05:26 PM »
I would propose to my legislator that they suggest before further consideration is made that the proposal undergo, study and testing. That is, 100,000 rounds (in various calibers) be made up and fired to see if the ID numbers are legible after firing. I don't think it would be unreasonable to demand that a very high percentage of the bullets have at least say 90% of the numbers legible after firing. Of course the numbering must include numbers in at least the 15 digit range (try get that on a 17 caliber). Lets take it one step further and do it california style. Each different type and weight  of bullet, and individual load must be tested and pass. Ops 100,000 is not going to be near enough.
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SERIAL NUMBERS ON BULLETS
« Reply #37 on: July 03, 2005, 07:34:22 PM »
LOTTA GOOD A SERIAL NUMBER WILL DO WHEN THE BAD GUYS USE WHEEL GUNS TO COMMIT THEIR CRIMES, AND WHAT ABOUT STOLEN BULLETS THAT GO WITH THE STOLEN GUNS THESE SCUMBAGS ARE USING? THESE PROPOSED LAWS ARE A JOKE, BUT I DON'T HEAR ANYONE LAUGHING. DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE REST OF YOU, BUT I'M RELOADING AS FAST AS I CAN AND BUYING FACTORY ROUNDS, TOO. I'LL NEED NEW BARRELS BEFORE I RUN OUT OF BULLETS. BY THE WAY, WILD PIG TAGS WENT UP LAST YEAR FROM $9.20 FOR A BOOK OF FIVE TAGS TO $16.00 FOR ONE TAG, HERE IN NORTHERN MEXICO, URR, CALEXICO, URR, THE NEW KENNEDY HOME AWAY FROM HOME ON THE WEST COAST. WISH TED KENNEDY WOULD DRIVE OFF OF ONE OF OUR BRIDGES. (ALONE OF COURSE) WHAT THE HELL, OUR WATERS ARE ALREADY POLLUTED. AND WHY DID OUR WONDERFUL STATE RAISE THE  PRICE OF PIG TAGS 800%? BECAUSE THE STATE IS BROKE AND THIS IS JUST ANOTHER WAY TO MAKE US LEGAL, LAW ABIDING, WORKING, TAX PAYING GUN OWNERS PAY FOR OUR AUDACITY TO BELIEVE IN OUR CONSTITUITIONAL RIGHT TO OWN AND BEAR ARMS.
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« Reply #38 on: July 04, 2005, 05:46:42 AM »
I guess this means that bullet puller & file sales will go up.

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appears that these blue state politician geeks (bluenecks we call them)
need to be dragged out of office & soon!
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backdoor gun control
« Reply #39 on: July 16, 2005, 06:45:43 AM »
Quote from: ed1921
They don't want it to work.
I believe it's just a backdoor way to deprive the people of firearms.
And people used to laugh at the NRA's slippery slope rhetoric.


ed1921---But of course-- I brought up several years, as in about 30, ago they could never get all the guns, but could cut off the ammo-- at the time, we were unsure of just how this could be done---- cost was one consideration-- just price it out of the common mans reach-- but they have come up with something even better-  :roll:   :roll:   :roll:   :twisted:  Of course it will be a felnoy to get caught with unsearilized bullets-- then you cannot even own a gun--- this is more than a lot of BS--- they can all go to hell far as I am concerned, I have all the ammo I will need-- one advantage to being old. :)



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« Reply #40 on: July 17, 2005, 01:51:18 PM »
I live in California and my shooting colleagues in the NRA and elsewhere are VERY worried about the bill currently in our state assembly (it passed thru the Senate but not the assembly) requiring serial numbers on pistol cartridges.  Because of the T/C Contender, which uses most rifle cartridges, this bill could end up requiring serialization of almost all ammo.  Those who have studied the bill feel that it could make it impossible to buy ammo in California, since ammo makers would decide to avoid the extra expense and just not sell ammo in CA.  We are VERY worried that this bill, if passed, could make it about impossible to shoot any gun except a shotgun in this state.  ALso, the bill would make it a FELONY for anyone to possess any unserialized ammo.  THis means that Joe Shmoe, who lives in NV but is vacationing in CA and ignorant of the law, could get stopped by the police for speeding and if the cop sees the unserialized ammo in his car, he could get 10 yrs in prison.  This is such a ridiculous law most of us are totally outraged.
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« Reply #41 on: July 18, 2005, 02:34:35 AM »
Ya know folks, politicians have no prospective, but that rarely matters when they begin proposing rediculous laws.  

Why don't Californians sue those politicians to determine their mental capacity for acting in the 'common good'.  After all, proposing such an irrational peice of legislation should be sufficient evidence to provide an initial diagnostic impression of being detached from reality - which makes them psychotic, unable to make rational decisions and to serve the public good.  They should be hospitalized and treated in a mental facility.  

If there aren't any laws in the PRK that protect sitting politicians from being committed for evaluation, then why the hay don't you find a psychiatrist who shoots (I know there must be at least 2 out there) and have them publically call for a full psychiatric evaluation to determine if these politicans are sane and stable enough to make decisions and propose laws for the 'public good'.  Once you call their sanity into question, it calls all their actions and proposals into question.  

I believe that here in NYS, if a politician proposed something that far out his or her sanity would be called into public question and if a loud enough call for a full-blown psych evaluation is made, some of these people would simply fold and disappear.  

Funny part is, the ones you want evaluated would most likely be the ones to scream the 2nd loudest.  The ones who are really worried would scream the loudest.  And, although there are federal privacy laws concerning patient confidentiality and the release of patient specific medial information, there isn't anything that says you can call for full public disclosure on someone is 'serving in the public interest'.  

This would be like putting one of those politicians into a catch 22 - ain't no psychiatrist I have ever met (and I know a bunch of them) who would be willing to publically state that someone is 'perfectly normal' or 'perfectly sane'.  

This whole idea is, of course, based upon the insanity of their proposed law.  

And, it also smells like the law they passed in New Jersey a couple of years back that every handgun possess some form of advanced technology that would either identify the shooter or prevent the pistol from being fired by someone else (er something like that) - as soon as the technology is developed.  Yep, just as soon as it's developed.  Don't old your breath.  

But you know, these politicans have been using thier dirty tricks on us for years - why the hay don't we use the same sort of dirty tricks on them.  They propose laws that call reality into question - why don't we demand a public disclosure of their ability to function in the public interest.  Just a thought.  Mikey.

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« Reply #42 on: July 18, 2005, 09:10:48 AM »
We need to educate non shooters. Every anti I have spoken to was surprised by the truth. If you explain the how you get a permit ,etc, people start to understand. The assault weapons nonsense for example a ruger mini 14 with a wood stock is ok but with a folding stock its an assault weapon As shooters we have to expose as many people to the truth as possible. Two cops got shot in NYC and Mayor Bloomberg is asking for congress to strengthen  gun control. He should just ask the Bronx DA how many people plea bargained parole or probation  instead of doing jail time.

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« Reply #43 on: July 18, 2005, 04:20:44 PM »
Say! Isn't Maryland the same state that tattoos stars of David on the foreheads of gun owners?
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« Reply #44 on: July 19, 2005, 08:32:09 AM »
The best adivise I could give you is if they actually try this organize all the gun owners of maryland and create a very load and noisy protest outside the state capitol when this comes up. also do a major letter campaign to you reps. and senators. this has the best chance of scaring them to death since it shows that anyone that votes for such an idiot law will lose tons of votes in the next election.

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« Reply #45 on: July 26, 2005, 12:51:18 PM »
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Where do these politicos come from, Moronia? Geez....

Duh,  I think they are elected by the populace in those states.

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« Reply #46 on: August 16, 2005, 04:06:29 PM »
I originally saw this on another forum and looked it up in the California Assembly bills.  It seems, beginning in 2007, the amended law (see Paragraph 7) will affect new semi-auto handguns not already on their roster.

The actual language on the website (see link below) is:

Commencing January 1, 2007, for all semiautomatic pistols that
are not already listed on the roster pursuant to Section 12131, it
is not designed and equipped with a microscopic array of characters
 ,  that identify the make, model, and serial number
of the pistol, etched into the interior surface or internal working
parts of the pistol, and which are transferred by imprinting on each
cartridge case when the firearm is fired.

http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/bill/asm/ab_0351-0400/ab_352_bill_20050516_amended_asm.html

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« Reply #47 on: August 16, 2005, 09:11:09 PM »
The only hope we have here in the PRC is if the governor has enough sense do vetoe this piece of idiocy but I'm not counting on it, he's basically a RINO.
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« Reply #48 on: October 30, 2005, 08:01:48 PM »
They could number all the bullets they want as far as I'm concerned.  I'll just keep casting my own and buy up bullets for ones I don't cast before they get numbered, and then pull the bullets apart that I want to get rid of the numbers on and file them off.  There is no way that it would work but they are welcomed to try it.

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« Reply #49 on: November 01, 2005, 01:14:45 AM »
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Living in Maryland means being in violation of several hundred laws per day. It's a great example of what happens when government gets out of control and the people don't care enough to do anything except make more laws.


I agree with you 100%
Thats the range I shoot on.It is just over the line I see Marylanders all the time kinda feel sorry for them that they have such stupid lawmakers. :D

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« Reply #50 on: November 02, 2005, 04:03:27 AM »
I'm sure it wouldn't affect anything I do.  They would have to number the base of the bullet.  If someone didn't want a number on their bullets, they would simply have to remove the bullet from the case and erase the numbers.  They can't put numbers on my bullet molds.

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« Reply #51 on: November 06, 2005, 08:57:51 AM »
What all of You need to understand why maryland is like it is because of where the most money comes from.
Our most money is towards washington , the counties that are around this part of the state. They carrie the most power,this is were you get the beeding harts from. The last Governor we had from this region introduced the most gun Laws on us.We blue collar people want less Laws,but we not going to get them because of the power base.At one time a Woman ran for Govenor she lost by a slim margin, this would have been a plus for the Progun people in the state.The problem is that they want to take all guns away, and not use the current laws to procute the right people.
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