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Questions about the Encore?????
« on: October 04, 2005, 01:32:01 PM »
I think there may be an Encore in my very near future. Likely a .50 cal. in-line to start with. Later a rifle barrel.

My question is about rifle barrels. Does anyone have experience with rifle barrels with Muzzle Tamers or porting? Do they work as advertised and how does it effect accuracy? I'm thinking about a 30/06 barrel with either one of these options. I have never had a rifle feel so comfortable to me to hold and carry or one that shouldered so naturally as an Encore does. Must be the odd stock.

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Re: Questions about the Encore?????
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2005, 01:44:00 PM »
I really like my 209-50.  You definitely want to get the EZ tip extractor... or one of the otehr breech plug options (like the .32 deal-e-o).  Just do a search... many opinions about loads.

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0020969214981a&type=product&cmCat=search&returnString=_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&hasJS=true&_D%3AhasJS=+&%2Fcabelas%2Fcommerce%2FCabelasCatalogNumberFinder.giftCertificateURL=%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Ftemplates%2Fgiftcertificate%2Fgiftcertificate.jsp%3Fid%3D0005586990011a%26podId%3D0005586%26catalogCode%3DIB%26navAction%3Djump%26indexId%3D&_D%3A%2Fcabelas%2Fcommerce%2FCabelasCatalogNumberFinder.giftCertificateURL=+&QueryText=tc+encore&_DARGS=%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Fcommon%2Fsearch%2Fsearch-box.jsp.form21&Go.x=0&Go.y=0&N=4887&Ntk=Products&Ntx=mode+matchall&Nty=1&Ntt=tc+encore&noImage=0&returnPage=search-results1.jsp


As far as rifle barrels.  I'd just start off with a regular barrel and a good recoil pad.  I have a standard .308 barrel with the limbsaver pad, and I find the recoil to be quite manageable and comfortable.  Certainly the tamers or muzzle brakes help, but normally that's to improve follow up shots.  Does that really matter with a break-open single shot?

I've heard these work... but my groups are good enough that I haven't thrown money at one.

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Re: Questions about the Encore?????
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2005, 01:46:35 PM »
Quote from: Qtip
I think there may be an Encore in my very near future. Likely a .50 cal. in-line to start with. Later a rifle barrel.

My question is about rifle barrels. Does anyone have experience with rifle barrels with Muzzle Tamers or porting? Do they work as advertised and how does it effect accuracy? I'm thinking about a 30/06 barrel with either one of these options. I have never had a rifle feel so comfortable to me to hold and carry or one that shouldered so naturally as an Encore does. Must be the odd stock.

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You will love the 50 cal Encore. I have a 50 and 45 cal M/L barrels. As far as rifle barrels with Muzzle Tamers or porting, i have a factory 416 Rigby barrel with a muzzle tamer and it work extremely well.  :D
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« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2005, 02:35:17 PM »
7mm-08 barrel is nice............

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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2005, 04:04:01 PM »
Qtip,
Just a thought. If you are getting an Encore get it as a handgun, this way you will beable to take full advantage of the encore system.
You will be able to use it as a handgun or rifle at will, but if you get it as a rifle you must always keep it as a rifle Just to stay with in the stupid laws.

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« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2005, 02:17:04 AM »
Any kind of muzzle brake it make the gun alot louder. Unless your going to wear hearing protection while hunting I won`t recomand one. They do reduce recoil, but with an 06 for hunting it`s not nessary. If you were going to shoot it from the bench most of the time it would de worth considering. At least that`s my never to be humble oppenion.

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« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2005, 02:45:16 AM »
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Any kind of muzzle brake it make the gun alot louder. Unless your going to wear hearing protection while hunting I won`t recomand one. They do reduce recoil, but with an 06 for hunting it`s not nessary. If you were going to shoot it from the bench most of the time it would de worth considering. At least that`s my never to be humble oppenion.


I agree with Catfish, If my barrel did not come with the muzzle break, I would not of put one on. There are other ways to tame recoil. A mercury recoil suppressor in the stock works well. In my opinion I don't think the 06 would qualify for a muzzle break unless you are recoil sensitive. If you are going to shoot a lot from a bench, use a past recoil pad.  :D
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« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2005, 09:42:29 AM »
Like mentioned earlier stay away from muzzlebrakes for hunting.  One of my hunting partners has brakes on his guns, and is always wearing ear plugs, while hunting.  I keep waiting for a Grizzly or Moose to sneak up behind him.  My other friend has a brake on his rifle and two years ago he took a fast shot at a Moose, without putting his ear protection on first.  Now he wears hearing aids, that one shot without hearing protection ruined his hearing.  
    I own an Encore.  I bought it as the .50 cal muzzleloader, and added 30-06, and .375H&H, barrels.  The 30-06 barrel is not ported or does not have a brake, and is very comfortable to shoot.  Even with my heavy handloads.  The .375 barrel came ported, I use a stainless steel clamp to cover the ports when hunting.  The recoil with the .375 is not pleasant, but that is the price you pay for something that will stop a big animal.  
    First and most important is learning how to shoot a high powered rifle.  50% of the men that come out to the range to shoot hold their rifles like it were a .22RF.  No wonder it kicks the heck out of them.  These are men in their 40s and 50s, and don't try and give them advise. They will tell you they have been shooting all their lives and know a lot more than you do.  When in reality they only shoot two rounds once a year just before hunting season, to make sure the gun still works.  My teenage students can shoot rings around them, using bigger more powerful guns.  Simply because the kids know how to hold a big gun properly to manage recoil.  One of my 15 year old girls carries a .300 Win Mag.  She only weighs 95lbs herself.  She is going to back her Dad up when he goes for Grizzly with a bow.   She does not use a brake either.
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« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2005, 11:34:12 AM »
I feel all hunters should get a set of amplified hearing protection  for use when in the woods.

I have some hearing loss so now,  I went out and bought a set and  I never go in the woods with out them on. They work well and have helped me find deer. I have even talked my hunting friends in to doing the same.
They shut down the noise of any gun shot even ones off in the distance.