Ok one hinderance, no Kales or Zeiss prices now, Budget title scopes only pretty much. don't mean to be harsh but i'm getting tired of these outragously priced scopes. I'm getting a .223 barrel and want a BDC equipped scope. I like the ATN .223 Daylight scope, and the AR-15 NcStar 4x20 but it has that Ar-15 only mount. With options i gave y'all get the idea of what i can afford.