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Offline kjg

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now that hogdon and Imr are the same
« on: October 18, 2005, 08:06:35 AM »
now that hogdon and Imr are the same company and the burn rates were simialr with a few powders will they be the same I know 4350 IMR and H 4350 were close would it be safe to load the same charge imr as hogdon? I still always load 15% under listed loads and work up in1/2 grian incraments. kjg
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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2005, 08:13:48 AM »
There are separate load data for IMR and Hodgdon powders.  IMR4350 and H4350 do not have the same burn rates.

http://www.imrpowder.com/data/rifle/index.php

http://www.hodgdon.com/data/rifle/index.php
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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2005, 10:50:33 AM »
IMR 4198 and H4198 are not the same either. Maybe the burn rate is the same, but the powders themselves behave differently. The difference is quite apparent in .221 Fire Ball.
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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2005, 12:06:48 PM »
Always follow reloading data precisely and do not substitute ANYTHING unless the powder company has told to that you can, or if you have very carefully worked up loads with each powder and compared the differences in pressure.  But then....your face, your eyes and your life are in Your own hands.  Reloading can be very dangerous with just one little mistake...but to take chances and guess about loads is downright STUPID.  Do NOT DO IT!
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« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2005, 07:33:41 PM »
Are Pontiac's and Oldsmobiles "the same"? When the two powders have the same number Hodgon's tends to be a bit slower. IMR 4831 seems awfully like H4350 in my rifle.
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« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2005, 02:57:18 AM »
From what I've read, they two companies (IMR & Hodgdon) will be totally independent of each other.  So nothing has changed between the powders.
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« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2005, 09:22:01 AM »
From what I've looked at, the biggest thing that IMR and Hodgdon share is the Web site layouts -- Very convenient when looking up laods for different powders. But the powders themselves are still different, even if they have similar names.
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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2005, 09:36:36 AM »
But now they both use the stupid big round bottles?
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« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2005, 09:56:50 AM »
But it's easier to empty those big round bottles. :lol:
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« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2005, 03:40:56 AM »
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But now they both use the stupid big round bottles?

I agree
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« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2005, 04:20:54 AM »
May pour easier but do NOT store as well as the can.

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« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2005, 04:51:04 PM »
My understanding is that there will be no changes made to the IMR line of powders.  Thus far I haven't seen any differences to the IMR powders.  Of course it's difficult to say what will happen further down the road.  "Never" is a long, long time.  I'm hoping there are no changes.  Best wishes.

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« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2005, 07:47:59 PM »
Bama Boy wrote:

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But it's easier to empty those big round bottles.


Its also much easier it is to replace excess powder into those big round bottles, than the metal cans with the small caps.  :wink:

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