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Offline Atomic Chicken

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Seriously Considering Sig P239 (40S&W)...
« on: September 17, 2005, 08:05:14 PM »
Greetings!

I was at a local gun store and had a chance to examine a Sigarms P239 in .40S&W today.  I was quite impressed... but I have some questions.

I own several .40 S&W Glock pistols, and owned a P229 in 9mm approx. 7 years ago, I was subsequently offered more for it at a gun show than I originally paid for it, so I let it go at the time after having it only about 2 weeks and 150 rds. put through it.  I've missed it ever since... should have gone and bought another on the spot, but a nice bolt action caught my eye that same show... you know how it goes.

OK... on to the questions:

#1 - The P229 I previously owned was a stainless finish, while the P239 I examined today was a blued model.  I asked the counter guy and he told me the P239 was available in a stainless finish, but he would have to order it in.  Is it worth it?  What is the corrosion resistance of the blued models vs. the stainless models?  I like the looks of the stainless better... but would happily settle for either one if there aren't any big disadvantages to the blued model.

#2 - I don't think I have ever handled a handgun that felt as GOOD in my hands as the P239... something about it just felt RIGHT.  Not having a chance to actually fire the gun though, I'm wondering what the recoil is like on the P239 .40S&W model.  For comparison, I find my Glock 22 and 23 models to be quite mild in terms of recoil, for those who have both a .40S&W P239 and a .40S&W Glock, how do they compare in the recoil department?

#3 - Is there anything anyone would like to say in terms of pros/cons of the P239 or just general comments?  I'm interested in any input anyone wants to give!

Thanks in advance, and best wishes!
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Offline Dave in WV

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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2005, 04:34:03 AM »
If it feels right go for it. The 239s don't feel right to me. A 225 in .357 SIG would be the optimum for me.
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Seriously Considering Sig P239 (40S&W).
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2005, 07:35:39 AM »
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  • The P229 I previously owned was a stainless finish, while the P239 I examined today was a blued model. I asked the counter guy and he told me the P239 was available in a stainless finish, but he would have to order it in. Is it worth it? What is the corrosion resistance of the blued models vs. the stainless models? I like the looks of the stainless better... but would happily settle for either one if there aren't any big disadvantages to the blued model. Is the corrosion resistance of the blued models vs. the stainless models significant? You betcha!

  • I don't think I have ever handled a handgun that felt as GOOD in my hands as the P239... something about it just felt RIGHT. Not having a chance to actually fire the gun though, I'm wondering what the recoil is like on the P239 .40S&W model. For comparison, I find my Glock 22 and 23 models to be quite mild in terms of recoil, for those who have both a .40S&W P239 and a .40S&W Glock, how do they compare in the recoil department? Whatever the recoil is, it will be less with the stainless model because the added weight will help absorb the kick.[/list:o]
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2005, 03:21:03 PM »
Here's a good place to look for any info on the 239:

http://sigforum.com/eve/ubb.x?a=cfrm&s=674608412

I found lots of useful info there. Then I bought my 228 and couldn't be happier with it.  MI VHNTR
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2005, 12:04:07 PM »
:D I think the 239 is an excellent choice for a carry gun.  I picked mine up used, it is a .357.  I think if I were buying new I would go with the stainless  finish,  Just something about them bright shinny guns I like.  I own several Sigs, all are great guns, I have never had any kind of problem with any of them except locating a european model (bottom release) mag for my 225.

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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2005, 01:02:20 PM »
What are you going to use the gun for?

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« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2005, 02:04:47 PM »
muzzleblast525,

I'm planning on using the gun mainly as a concealed carry gun... I like my Glock pistols VERY much but also appreciate firearms of high mechanical perfection and beauty, and Sig pistols are definitely that!

Don't get me wrong... I think the Glock pistol design is one of the best, if not THE best in terms of mechanical simplicity and reliability... but let's face it - they are fairly ugly and utilitarian guns and are somewhat "boring" to shoot - you feed them ammo and they just keep going "bang" every time you pull the trigger (which is not necessarily a BAD thing, just somewhat routine!).

Maybe I'm looking for a solution without a problem - my Glocks will do everything I want in terms of reliable defensive handguns, but something about the Sig P239 just "floats my boat" in a visceral kind of way!  The gun just feels GREAT in my hands, it is approx. the same size as a Glock 23 (which I've always felt was the ideal size for a CC handgun), and the overall fit and finish just EXUDES quality and mechanical perfection.  Even if I rarely carry the Sig (which is probably unlikely, something tells me it will be one of my fav's to carry!) I would still want to own one just for the joy of handling/shooting/maintaining it.

Hope this all makes sense... and hopefully answers your question!

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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2005, 04:26:46 PM »
It does, just wanted to know.  I've owned several guns over the past 10 years that were for duty carry.  I carried the Sig for about a year, kinda loved the gun, it had a the laser in the grips and thats probably why, but alas, the boss thought it was too aggressive and wouldn't allow its use, so I sold it.  Also, the grip just didn't feel right sometimes, don't know why, but it didn't....Go figure....Duh!!!

Then went to Kimber .45, and after about two years sold it and bought the Glock 22.  I've owned several Glocks over the year.  Pretty much thats what I carry now, for the payload actually, and then carry a S&W Airweight for off-duty.

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« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2005, 11:28:09 AM »
:roll: Muzzleblast525.  Funny, when talking about the Sig you said, "the grip just didn't feel right sometimes."  I usually hear this more about the Glock.  I also have a model 22, it does feel much different than the Sig, but the Sig feels more natural to me. As a result, my accuracy is much better with the Sig.  

I have been in a position where I had to carry for many years.  Mostly I carried either a Smith model 10, model 19 or Colt .45.  Today, with a choice, if my butt were on the line, it would only be a Sig.

There are a lot of cheap Glocks out there today, they established contracts with many major police departments to furnish lease weapons to the force.  Most of the cops I have talked to about them prefer the Sig if they had a choice.

Of course, as I have said before, giving someone advice on what gun to buy/carry is kinda like giving em advice on what girl to marry. :D

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« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2005, 06:26:49 PM »
Atomic Chicken:

Bought my P239 (9mm) when they first came out, as one of my carry-guns while living in the Heartland.  All I can say is...NICE!

Easy to carry, it points good and goes BANG....EVERY TIME time you pull the trigger no matter what it's feed.  And yes...that's a GOOD THING!  Even my wife and daughter are comfortable with this handgun...and in an emergency, they can operate it too.  Another plus.

You can't go wrong with this firearm...regardless of caliber.

My two cents again...

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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2005, 03:34:01 AM »
Greetings again!

Well... I went ahead and did it... after much consideration and a bit of difficulty, I picked up my new Sig P239 (.40S&W) yesterday and I'm absolutely THRILLED!!!

The most amazing part of this whole process is that I had gone to 3 different area gun stores in the last few days, comparing the P239 to the P229 (the other model I was half-heartedly considering!) and had no problem finding it in 9mm, .40S&W, and at one gun store even a .357 Sig version.  I found models both with and without night sights, and one used pistol that had extra mags and night sights included for a fairly good price.  Imagine my complete and total SURPRISED SHOCK, after days of consideration, that when I actually went to purchase this gun with $$$ in hand there wasn't one to be found!!!!

Seriously... the supply had dried up almost literally overnight, and all that was left was a pair of 9mm with night sights (I wasn't even remotely interested in that caliber), a .40S&W with night sights that was WAY overpriced ($125 more than I had seen the IDENTICAL model across town) and another .40S&W without the night sights in the next city over (yes... at this point I was growing desperate and actually began making calls to neighboring cities up to 50 miles away!).  I called on the used .40S&W with the extra mags, and discovered that it had been sold 2 days before... I began to seriously wonder what was going on!!!

I finally decided as a last resort to drop by the last local gun store I knew about, one that I rarely went to because they don't have a very large selection and mostly specialize in rifles... and found to my surprise that they had a .40S&W P239 in stock with night sights.  They wanted $100 more than the previous store (which, like the rest had NONE in stock)... but after talking to the owner for a bit and telling him of his competitors price he amazed me by matching the other stores price!  I bought it on the spot... and asked him why he thought stock all over town had dried up so fast.  He told me that a Sig Sauer representative had told him personally over the phone a few days before that all Sig pistol shipments were being put on hold for at least 2 weeks because of the problems in New Orleans... and that magazines for some Sig models were becoming VERY hard to find.  I finally connected the dots... and kicked myself for not expecting something like this to happen in the aftermath of the hurricane!

In any case, I walked out of the store with a brand new P239 and immediately took it to a local indoor range.  I shot 3 boxes of ammo through it (150 rounds total), each box a different brand and bullet type. I used CCI aluminum cased 180gr FMJ's (worst groups), Winchester 155gr. hollowpoints, and Remington 155gr. hollowpoints (best groups). All of the groups I shot seemed to be low and to the left, approx. 3" in both directions. My group sizes ranged from 6" down to 3" at 25 yards, depending on the ammunition and my shooting... which I admit was not so great as I was becoming accustomed to the new pistol and trying different stances, holds, decocker/DA function experimentation, sight alignments, etc. to the point that it was almost laughably unscientific. In any case, I figured out a few things, and next time I go to the range I expect my groups sizes to shrink a bit. First thing I learned is that the rock-solid death-grip I use with my .40 S&W Glocks is not the best for the P239, it almost seemed like if I relaxed my hand a bit the group tightened up! Very interesting....

EVERY SINGLE ROUND fired perfectly... not a single failure to feed, stovepipe, misfire, or any other problem of ANY kind. Hmm.... this was starting to remind me of my Glocks!

In any case, I absolutely LOVE the P239 so far... even though I haven't yet shot it up to the standards that I expect of MYSELF... this is no reflection on the pistol whatsoever!!!  It looks great, it feels PERFECT in my hands, the recoil is tame... all-in-all a truly excellent weapon that I feel almost ashamed to not be doing justice to by my poor shooting today! I know the pistol is up to the task, I managed to shoot a perfect 3/4" group of 3 shots during one of my tests with the Remington ammo... once I do my part this will be an AWESOME handgun.

Anyway... enough of the rambling, I just wanted to share the joy of my new purchase... I think this pistol is a real keeper! :)

Best wishes,
Bawko
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