Looks like it's time, perhaps past time, for me to step in and end this.
Up front let's say that if I had clicked on the link the day it was posted the thread would have been deleted. Both of those Mike's were once advertisers here at GBO. One was booted off as a trouble maker and his full cost of the ad refunded even tho it was four months into a six months ad period. The other chose to leave on his own and did so with no ill will on my part toward him but he did apparently have some ill will toward me. Seems he felt I was short changing him by answering questions in the affirmative when asked about owning SSK products but not able to do the same for his since I'd never owned any of his. That's his right.
BUT neither are currently advertisers here yet either they are sending their minions here to try to gain free advertisement or they have some really strong boosters who wish to see how far I'll let them go. Well to answer that neither are advertisers, both were. Since that's the situation any post I consider an "AD" for them will be removed. This article fits that category and the link is being removed.
Being a Mod for GB, I would assume you are required to bad mouth him due to the fall out they had for whatever reason. I know my groups shrank after installing the oversize pin, so I know for a fact that it works. YMMV.
At GBO Moderators are assigned to individual forums. On those forums they are my representative responsible to me for enforcing the written rules of the site as listed in the Terms of Use Statement. When needed they are expected to help generate disucssion. This applies mostly to new or relatively inactive forums. On active forums they may post or not as they wish. They are not expected to act any differently than any other GBO Member with that exception. There are several of them with whom I have long running arguments on many matters. At times we even get some what heated. They are still moderators.
I installed the same pin as you and got worse groups. So what does that tell you? It tells me your results were an anomoly. Perhaps mine were. Perhaps both were. In theory I think the pin idea is a bad one.
Is our moderator "moderating"?
Definitions of moderator on the Web:
Ed, you're not just out there on the web, you're at GBO. Here I define the duties of a moderator. Not you, not the membership in general and for sure NOT some definition you pull from another website.
On the forum a person Moderates for me they are my representative there and as stated above are to enforce my rules on that forum and that forum alone. On any forum for which their name is not listed at the top as Moderator they are just a GBO member. No different than anyone else. They have no powers and no authority. They speak as a GBO member. They are entitled to their own opinions on all matters.
Wilyote, you're mighty new here to have such strong opinions without knowledge of the facts. Most likely you're from a past personna who has been disabled. But for the record it's extremely difficult to get banned from GBO. In the first place GBO like ALL other sites ban IP addresses NOT members. That's the only way you can do it with today's technology. We've got perhaps 8-10 IP addresses banned here. Mostly they were folks who spewed forth the most vile and filthy language and just had to be banned regardless of the consequenses to others who might use the same IP address.
When a person normally gets out of line they are not banned their account is just disabled.
Which by the way is precisely what happened to the
tommyn account which is why he is now posting as Neil and that one will now be deactivated also. Should be interesting to see who he comes back as next. That person is a known trouble maker on this site and loves to go to others to brag about how he was BANNED from GBO. Yet he is still posting here just as a different user name. Sorry guy now you'll have to come up with yet another one to do it.
This thread ends now. It's long since out lived it's usefulness as if it ever has any.