Author Topic: new omega breech plug...advantage? (Read 997 times)

870 expressmag · « **on:** November 24, 2005, 04:23:34 PM »

i bought a t/c omega rifle from cabelas 3 years ago when they were fairly new...and mine has a breech plug that is hallow or dished out on the side facing the powder inside the barrel...i recently just picked up a omega rifle for a friend of mine and it seems that the newer omegas have a more flat breech plug facing the powder with just a slight slant on it, where as mine is deep and hollow...is there an advantage to the new design? should i buy one of the new design and replace my old one(which isn;t a problem they are cheap)...i use 100gr of 777 pellets...thanks for any thoughts or help

DanielWGriggs · « **Reply #1 on:** November 25, 2005, 05:09:33 AM »

Yes you should buy a new one and send the old one directly to me for correct disposition.

OTOH: I would not get worried about the change likely it helps lower their cost of manufacture..

does it shoot well for you or are you just wanting a reason(excuse) to buy a new one? Many laughs.

If you are real concerned I would contact TC and ask about the change.

The dished out design sounds like it was ment to be used with a loose powder charge.

Busta · « **Reply #2 on:** November 25, 2005, 07:26:10 AM »

T/C has at least 3 different breech plugs for the Encore/Omega. One was designed to cut down on the crud ring from shooting 777 loose powder.

870 expressmag · « **Reply #3 on:** November 25, 2005, 07:41:15 AM »

well it shoots good...but i always wondered if the powder pellets would fall into the concave part once in a while if they maybe cracked or crushed during loading (which i havn't had a problem with yet)...i don;t know i guess i just wanted an excuse to get a new one :grin:
i like to be "up-to-date"

Busta · « **Reply #4 on:** November 25, 2005, 07:46:56 AM »

Unless T/C has designed a fourth plug, the deep dished one was the latest and greatest for 777 loose anyways.

870 expressmag · « **Reply #5 on:** November 25, 2005, 07:52:29 AM »

i use the 777 pellets though...thats why when i seen the breech plug from the newer one and it was almost flat it looked like a better option for pellets

slayer · « **Reply #6 on:** November 25, 2005, 11:24:17 AM »

Also, the new/new Omegas have the cheaper sights on them, I imagine yours has the click adjustable sights? Their the good ones, the new ones are the Williams Fire Sights, while nice, not as nice as the click adjustable ones. Jack.

870 expressmag · « **Reply #7 on:** November 26, 2005, 09:43:37 AM »

yes mine has the click adjustments......and mine also is the cabelas exclusive totally covered in realtree hardwoods hd

so i guess i will just swap out the breech plugs from his and try and see what happens since no one really knows definately....i might have to call TC...my mind is inquisitive

toytruck · « **Reply #8 on:** November 26, 2005, 09:54:04 PM »

I have the TC Encore which takes the same breechplug as the Omega. The deep dish design plug is for loose powder and the flatter plug is for pellets, as stated to prevent crushing them.

I now shoot loose triple 7 and called TC and they swapped out my flat plug for the deep dished one. Only costs was for shipping.

I was trying to get away from the blow back into the Encore breech area, but didn't see any difference in the two plug designs. The new Remington Kleenbore 209's have solved that problem so far.

870 expressmag · « **Reply #9 on:** November 27, 2005, 05:10:54 AM »

well i just got a pack of the new remington kleenbore 209's..havn't tried them yet but i have never had much trouble with blowback...i think i will just buy one of the flat plugs and keep them both in case i ever want to use loose powder..thanks guys

Keith Lewis · « **Reply #10 on:** November 27, 2005, 01:53:37 PM »

There are actually three plugs. I have all three. The one that came with my Omega which is about three years old was almost flat with a slight concave face less than 1/16 inch deep. The second one is a concave one which has about 3/16 inch deep concave but has a ring around the outside of the convave section which is about 1/8 inch across (this apparently was to give a flat section for pellets to sit on without falling into the concave section. The third one is fully concave and has no flat section on the face (personally I would not use this one with pellets (although I don't use pellets anyway). I bought all three to try to get rid of the 777 crud ring. None of these fixed the problem in my rifle. The .25ACP conversion did the most to fix the problem but not completely. Finally I stopped using 777 and the crud ring problem went away. Black Mag'3 works great for me.

870 expressmag · « **Reply #11 on:** November 28, 2005, 04:49:59 AM »

i keep hearing about this 777 crud ring...what does it look like can anyone show me pictures? i don;t think i have ever gotten it in my omega....but then again i am not sure since i have never seen it