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« on: October 30, 2005, 06:07:28 AM »
gettin there,

the axel is cut long, and will be cut to the right length after i build the wheels,

its sitting about the hight, as in the plans,

you can see the "tack" holding the barrel up.


everything was built on my mill, except cutting out the raw-size,
i got my son to play on the table saw for me, as its on my "NO" list.

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« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2005, 06:20:10 AM »
Lookin good!
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« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2005, 09:43:58 AM »
You make it sound and look easy. I know it's not. Great work.
What type of wood is that and what finish have you used? What are you planning to use for an elevation control?

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« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2005, 11:35:58 AM »
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You make it sound and look easy. I know it's not. Great work.
What type of wood is that and what finish have you used? What are you planning to use for an elevation control?



the wood is mahogany 3/4X3X16  4 pieces, glued up,
"hint" cut the center two out for the cannon barrel and sand first
then glue the sides on. ive done it twice,,grin,,

im using some polyuathane for finishing, no stain.

my wheels will be mahogony, but im going to use birch dowels from the hardware store, for the spokes.

turning the hubs tommorrow, and drill them out on my rotary table.

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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2005, 12:37:28 PM »
Have you made plans for to the axle yet? Do you have enough wood there to inlet a metal rod?

When I built this carriage, I cut a groove in the 1½" x 1½" square oak stock to accept a ½" stainless steel threaded rod for the axle, then capped the groove with a piece ¼" x 1½" thick.

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I built the trail using the same laminating process you used, except I used a combination of ¾" and ¼" thick pieces of oak to get the thickness I needed. The trail ended up being five pieces (¾-¼-¾-¼-¾).

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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2005, 01:31:57 PM »
Ya better paint that carriage Green before Double D sees it :-D
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« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2005, 02:52:40 PM »
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Have you made plans for to the axle yet? Do you have enough wood there to inlet a metal rod?

When I built this carriage, I cut a groove in the 1½" x 1½" square oak stock to accept a ½" stainless steel threaded rod for the axle, then capped the groove with a piece ¼" x 1½" thick.

http://www.fototime.com./0884BA8066A243A/orig.jpg">

I built the trail using the same laminating process you used, except I used a combination of ¾" and ¼" thick pieces of oak to get the thickness I needed. The trail ended up being five pieces (¾-¼-¾-¼-¾).





your carrage is diffent than mine,


im building  the "pack carrage"

as you can see i sanded the "round" into the carrage at the required tapers, this was a bitc? i used 80grit and a sawranwrap tube,
then down to 220, i still missed getting the curve all the way to the sides without going too deep,,frustrating, but wont be seen, cept by me, and now everybody on the group here,,grin,

your sides are seperate where mine taper all the way to the tail.
and yes ive left room for my steel axel,
it will be inbedded into the bottom of the wood axel,

ill probably use drill rod, in a brass tube,
then drill out the ends of the drill rod to put in the "keepers"
for the wheel hubs,

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« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2005, 03:26:26 PM »
Yeah, I'm familiar with the pack carriage. I used to have a small mountain howitzer. It also had .50 bore but the overall size was only about 2/3 that of yours. I bought it pre-assembled.

When I was talking about laminating the wood on my carriage, I was referring to just the central trail. The cheeks are as you said, separate pieces, and are removable.

I have more photos if you would like to see them, didn't mean to hi-jack your thread.

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« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2005, 03:41:57 PM »
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Yeah, I'm familiar with the pack carriage. I used to have a small mountain howitzer. It also had .50 bore but the overall size was only about 2/3 that of yours. I bought pre-assembled.

When I was talking about laminating the wood on my carriage, I was referring to just the central trail. The cheeks are as you said, separate pieces, and are removable.

I have more photos if you would like to see them, didn't mean to hi-jack your thread.


Hey, NO,,you didnt hijack nuthin,, sorry if i came across wrong,

did you heat treat or paint your steel, on the carrage?


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« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2005, 04:11:47 PM »
With the exception of the steel rims on the wheels (which I didn't make), that are painted flat black, everything on the carriage is either brass, bronze, or stainless steel. It's all polished, no paint.

The wood is finished in a low-gloss tung oil.

Here's a link to a page I created that documents the project. It mainly just hits the high points, I was trying to keep the page simple.

Cannon Project

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« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2005, 05:13:32 PM »
Quote from: Terry C.
With the exception of the steel rims on the wheels (which I didn't make), that are painted flat black, everything on the carriage is either brass, bronze, or stainless steel. It's all polished, no paint.

The wood is finished in a low-gloss tung oil.

Here's a link to a page I created that documents the project. It mainly just hits the high points, I was trying to keep the page simple.

Cannon Project




NICE, i like it,
cool webpage and firing pics,

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« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2005, 01:10:28 AM »
Good looking cannon!

Have you gotten it to the range?

I'll bet it attracts a LOT of attention!
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« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2005, 03:05:31 AM »
Quote from: Terry C.
With the exception of the steel rims on the wheels (which I didn't make), that are painted flat black, everything on the carriage is either brass, bronze, or stainless steel. It's all polished, no paint.

The wood is finished in a low-gloss tung oil.


That thing is going to be beautiful when it's finished, do you need the formula for carriage paint?  :wink:

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« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2005, 03:29:17 AM »
That reminds me DD, when ya gonna git around to paintin' that one in your avatar?  :-D

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« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2005, 04:11:49 AM »
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That reminds me DD, when ya gonna git around to paintin' that one in your avatar?  :-D


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« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2005, 04:44:44 AM »
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That reminds me DD, when ya gonna git around to paintin' that one in your avatar?  :-D


Haruummmph.....out of topic ,out of topic!!!!!!! :)  :)  :)




But an accurate observation.



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« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2005, 03:32:08 PM »
got my hubs built today,
cut the rings out of thin wall pipe,
then drilled out the axel holes in the glued up square blocks,
used a bolt in my lathe chuck to hold it, rounded it out cut in the small ring,
tapped it on, cut the bevel, then the large ring,
flipped it on the bolt, redid it all,
then sanded smooth,

a garrage maker im not,, whew alot of work,

couldent find any pipe to cut my wheel rims outov so i guess im making a roler setup to roll my own,
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gettin there,

the axel is cut long, and will be cut to the right length after i build the wheels,

its sitting about the hight, as in the plans,

you can see the "tack" holding the barrel up.


everything was built on my mill, except cutting out the raw-size,
i got my son to play on the table saw for me, as its on my "NO" list.

johnp
Lookin to learn, and keep all my parts.
johnpeeee,,,right after the big bang