Medium size six point in upstate New York on Sunday. 170 gr 30-30 Fusions, about 200 yard shot. Went straight through, behind shoulders, jellied the lung and deer went about 50 yards. May have been at the limit for the 30-30 but bullet did a nice job on the lungs. Did not destroy the shoulder meat badly, may have lost about a pound total from the trauma. Plus it shoots a nice 1 inch group at 100 yds. I well continue to use them, hope they release them for reloading.