Author Topic: 7x30 Waters factory federal brass??? (Read 2523 times)

JessMan · « **on:** December 05, 2004, 12:00:35 PM »

I am having problems locating some Federal 7x30 brass.
Can anyone steer me towards some?
I would rather not make my own from 30-30 brass.
Thanks
Jesse

Reed1911 · « **Reply #1 on:** December 05, 2004, 12:42:16 PM »

Jesse,

We make the 7-30 Waters properly formed. It's not headstamped correctly, but we make it from .375 and the neck/shoulder is not as thin as id it were made from .30-30 brass. It runs 35.00 per 100 (.35ea) We'll make as much or little as you need.

Graybeard · « **Reply #2 on:** December 05, 2004, 04:37:48 PM »

I think Federal stopped making it at least 2-3 years ago and the supply has pretty well dried up by now. I sold the last I had been hording with my 7-30 TC just recently. Folks Like Reed are now the best source unless you want to fire form your own. Cost isn't much different either way really so it's a matter of do you want to mess with it or have them do it for you.

JessMan · « **Reply #3 on:** December 05, 2004, 05:03:36 PM »

Thanks, I will get some from Reed, seems like a bargain to me.
Have not even bought a barrel yet, but always trying to look ahead.
Jesse

Hawkeye · « **Reply #4 on:** December 06, 2004, 05:00:56 AM »

I bought 200 from Deikrich Ammo Corp. This is new Federal nickel cases, 7-30 on the headstamp in the box, per 100.

They are in East Rochester, NY

$33.00 per 100 cases + S/H

1-800-622-3006 or 716-248-3660

MIke

Huntyeraws · « **Reply #5 on:** December 06, 2004, 05:13:53 AM »

That would be Beikirch Ammunition Corp

the area code is now 585

Kivaari · « **Reply #6 on:** December 06, 2004, 07:13:48 AM »

Hmmmm.....didn't think about .375 Winchester....I just bought 50 rounds of .38-55 Winchester Ballard.... (.506 at the rim and .422 at the web) for forming for $15...

I was thinking "length" more than anything in case I decided on 7mm Bulberry....DOH....38-55 is 2.129 as compared to .375 Win's 2.020 ...I'll have to call Reed and see what the formed length of .375 Winchester is...likely longer after a trip through the sizing die.

...double DOH... :shock:

Reed1911 · « **Reply #7 on:** December 06, 2004, 12:08:05 PM »

Post forming length is 2.029. It actually shrinks when forming due to the shoulder. You have to remember that when you make the jog it take a little length.

Kivaari · « **Reply #8 on:** December 06, 2004, 12:23:04 PM »

I thought is "squozed" it longer...

Per above and our phone conversation, do you mean...2.019 after forming as both 7-30 and .375 Win are nominal 2.020, iirc ?

WNY_Whitetailer · « **Reply #9 on:** January 03, 2005, 10:58:06 AM »

Federal still has it on their website...Unless they are lax in their web updates I think they still manufacture it. I was actually thinking of a 7-30 Waters Contender as a future purchase...Of course that is after I get into reloading.

jhalcott · « **Reply #10 on:** January 03, 2005, 02:35:04 PM »

whitetailer,Ijust got a 14" 7x30 in November.So far factory loads shoot better than GB's favorite one with 748 powder.IF(big IF) the range ever opens up, I will try some other powder/bullet combo's. Maybe that's the reason it was sold! :-D In any case ,it doesn't take the place of my 6.5JDJ, YET!

WNY_Whitetailer · « **Reply #11 on:** January 07, 2005, 07:18:49 AM »

Sportsmansguide had some in their catalogs...Just saw it in their Hunting catalog.

ks9wi · « **Reply #12 on:** January 08, 2005, 01:02:53 PM »

If all else fails.... Federal still sell factory ammo...Just another way to acquire brass.

While I'm typing here, I have a related question. Why would the primers back out about a 1/16 " on factory Federal ammo??? The action locks as it should if you close it lightly. If you close the action harder, you can not set the hammer!! Any suggestions?

Could there be something wrong with the receiver?? Called TC Friday.... waiting for them to return my call.

Keith

Camel 23 · « **Reply #13 on:** January 08, 2005, 03:48:08 PM »

ks9wi, CCI primers by any chance? I had the same thing happening, I switched to Winchester primers and have not had any more problems.

Myerslake2005 · « **Reply #14 on:** January 14, 2005, 02:18:55 AM »

Just got an e-mail from Federal. They plan on continuing making the 7-30 but wont sell the casings.

Steve 48 · « **Reply #15 on:** October 26, 2005, 06:08:59 AM »

I just but the Federal Premium factory loads which shoot well and save the brass. Its cheaper than buying the brass seperate. Steve 48

tcshooter52 · « **Reply #16 on:** October 28, 2005, 02:14:39 PM »

I would reframe from using NICKEl BRASS. Its not the right thing to do to your barrel or sizing dies. Very hard stuff and if any gets imbedded in your chamber or dies you will be very unhappy customer.

John

Gregory · « **Reply #17 on:** October 29, 2005, 02:07:40 AM »

Quote from: Reed1911

Jesse,

We make the 7-30 Waters properly formed. It's not headstamped correctly, but we make it from .375 and the neck/shoulder is not as thin as id it were made from .30-30 brass. It runs 35.00 per 100 (.35ea) We'll make as much or little as you need.

Reed

Back when I had a 7-30 Waters I formed some cases from 375 Win and the empty cases would chamber ok but when I seated a bullet they would not. I think the neck needed to be turned down. Do you find you must turn down the case neck when using 375 cases?

hunter58 · « **Reply #18 on:** October 29, 2005, 03:29:34 AM »

E. Arthur Brown still offers 7-30 brass. It is made from 30-30 brass.

MnMike · « **Reply #19 on:** October 30, 2005, 06:10:18 PM »

On the topic of primers backing out:

I have had that with factory ammo and factory cases. I fire form my cases with a bullet length sized to contact the rifling with a reduced load. After this, there are no backed out primers. Maybe the TC chamber is a little long.

mike

Reed1911 · « **Reply #20 on:** October 31, 2005, 01:40:03 AM »

Greg,

So far only on a few of the custom chambers do the necks need to be turned. All the factory chambers and most of the custom chambers have enough clearence for the thicker necks.

Kivaari · « **Reply #21 on:** November 01, 2005, 03:39:11 PM »

Do be careful on the neck thickness!!

The Contender with which I was loading looked to me to be a TC factory barrel and the chamber neck measured a nominal .3055 or so....

This required turning the necks after assembling/disassembling some ammo after assuming it would be ok..

Measure that chamber neck with a small ID caliper or cast the chamber or measure some factory fired brass plus springback.

Gregory · « **Reply #22 on:** November 01, 2005, 04:16:03 PM »

Quote from: Reed1911

Greg,

So far only on a few of the custom chambers do the necks need to be turned. All the factory chambers and most of the custom chambers have enough clearence for the thicker necks.

Mine was a factory barrel and I couldn't chamber the reformed 375 brass.

kjg · « **Reply #23 on:** November 10, 2005, 02:01:06 AM »

I sold my barrel a couple of years ago,I had a 21" tube and for some odd reson or another I could only achieve 1 1/2 " groups with it at 100 yards It was an exsellante deer gun, but I expected it to be better, a buddie had one in a super 14 and that thing would out perform mine. I guess it is a hand gun shooter only.

as for using federal brass I figuared that the federal ammo was just to dang much at 27.95 a box of 20 I had 3 boxes and reloaded the cases, and like others after it was fired(1 round0 the primer would back out of the case, after resizing the case it never happend again.

I was liking 30-30 brass it was cheap and econmically sound for me to shoot a lot also used 375 winchester , when using the winchester brass the overall case length was a tad bit short under listed length , but after a few reloades it had to be cut back. kjg