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Offline mark29860

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« on: November 26, 2005, 01:34:01 PM »
Thanks for all the info guys it really helps,I have no experience with handguns. I will probably not hunt with a handgun just want one to carry around the hunting club for hogs its easier to carry a handgun than a rifle on a 4 wheeler. I've been told either a 41 or 44 mag I know I want a ruger blackhawk whick barrel length should I go with. One other thing if I go with the 41 mag and wanted to hunt deer with it whats the effective range. Thanks guys
















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« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2005, 02:44:07 PM »
If you are going to be packing this black hawk alot on foot and on the 4 wheeler I would go with blackhawk with 4 5/8 inch barrel. You won't lose much in velocity. The 45 colt only loses an average of 50 ft/sec  compared to the 7/2 in in my loading manual  and alot handier to pack around if you get a holster that will hold it high and tight to your waste so it will be up out of the way unless your going with a shoulder holster. if you are not into handloading I would get the 44mag because you can get ammo for it anywhere. The 41 maybe hard to come by in some places and the 45 colt will need to be hand loaded to reach it's full potential in the ruger blackhawk.
Make sure it is legal to pack a loaded gun on 4 wheeler I know it is not here in Ill.

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« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2005, 02:46:05 PM »
If you are going to be packing this black hawk alot on foot and on the 4 wheeler I would go with blackhawk with 4 5/8 inch barrel. You won't lose much in velocity. The 45 colt only loses an average of 50 ft/sec  compared to the 7/2 in in my loading manual  and alot handier to pack around if you get a holster that will hold it high and tight to your waste so it will be up out of the way unless your going with a shoulder holster. if you are not into handloading I would get the 44mag because you can get ammo for it anywhere. The 41 maybe hard to come by in some places and the 45 colt will need to be hand loaded to reach it's full potential in the ruger blackhawk.
Make sure it is legal to pack a loaded gun on 4 wheeler I know it is not here in Ill.

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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2005, 05:36:36 PM »
Mark,

Not to detract from you wanting to purchase a big bore handgun, but personally if I was in your position, I wouldn't get one right now.  You said that you have no experience with handguns, so I would recommend that you pick up a quality .22auto pistol, or revolver first.  By doing so, you can practice the fundamentals of firing a heckuva lot more for a fraction of the cost.  People may argue with me on this one, but handguns are generally all the same when it comes to shooting.  If you practice the correct techniques, there isn't a huge jump from a .22 to a 9mm to a 41/44.  It all comes down to fundementals.  My brother who is almost 3 years older than me, and more than 100lb. bigger "punches" shots with his .44...he's already developed a slight flinch.  Is it that he is a wimp?...no, but that doesn't mean I won't call him that...hehehe :P .  The fact of the matter is that he is trying to learn on something that distracts his concentration...a .22 won't do this.  I use my mkII pistol probably 10 times more than my 41 mag. for #1 because I'm a tightwad, but #2 is because it's less distracting when squeezing off a shot....you stay to the basics.  Pistols aren't like rifles in many respects, the foremost is that you need to practice at least once a week for the most part to stay really proficient with them(again, some may disagree).  A shorter sighting plane, lack of 3 points of contact, etc... just makes it tougher to use.  I won't tell you not to  buy a larger pistol, but from classes I've gone through for law enforcement and the military, and helping to teach my troops to shoot, most shoot pretty poorly until they get the basic fundementals down, which is what I think you should think about.  Just my .02.  

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P.S.  Oh yeah, I haven't gotten a deer with my .41 blackhawk yet, but I have no doubt in my mind that it is capable of doing the job on deer out to 75-100yds. or so.....Good luck!!! :D
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« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2005, 01:21:08 AM »
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Thanks for all the info guys it really helps,I have no experience with handguns. I will probably not hunt with a handgun just want one to carry around the hunting club for hogs its easier to carry a handgun than a rifle on a 4 wheeler. I've been told either a 41 or 44 mag I know I want a ruger blackhawk whick barrel length should I go with. One other thing if I go with the 41 mag and wanted to hunt deer with it whats the effective range. Thanks guys

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I would recommend that you start off with a lighter caliber. You don't want to develop a flinch and shoot inaccurately. It is better to learn to handle recoil at a slow pace, than to unlearn a flinch. JMHO.  :D
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« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2005, 02:08:05 AM »
Good advice, getting a .22 and learning how to shoot.
Get a Ruger Single Six .22 to learn with, then a Ruger Blackhawk .44 for real work, then a .357 just for fun, then a ???.....

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« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2005, 03:38:00 AM »
I just got into this handgun stuff this year.  I took the logical route and got a .22 pistol.  About two months later I got my Super Blackhawk Hunter in .45 Colt.  Needless to say after shooting the .45, I never bothered with the .22 anymore and quickly sold it.
  I would recommend you just buying the caliber(.41, .44 or .45), a cheap press and some carbide dies and start reloading.  Reloading isn't only economical, but is fun in itself.

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« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2005, 05:53:16 AM »
Well I'm sort of in the same boat.  I am only a begginer to hangunning I just purchased my first 22 revolver ( new stainless Bearcat) before that my uncle gave me a 22 derringer on my 21st birthday and i had shot it and other 22 hanguns a lot before that.  I really would like to have a 45 colt blackhawk but am waiting until I am a more proficient handgunner. You could just buy both and start off with the 22 and work up, practice practice practice.  

There are two sides to every story though, my dad has one hangun a 45 colt and that all the handgun he's ever had, he said you might as well just jump in, ( he is also 6'6" and very strong, recoil doesnt bother him much).

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« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2005, 07:05:37 AM »
The key to learning how to handle anything is practice.  In the case of handguns, the blast and recoil of big-bore handguns is definately an issue to contend with.  I personally carry a Ruger security six in .357 with a 4' bbl.  I'm not going to say it's the biggest gun on the block but I would not want to be on the receiving end of the bullet.  That said, the .357 has the added advantage of cheap, low blast and recoil ammo in the .38 spl.   I'll say that more .38s have come off of my reloading press than any other caliber.  I practically forget that it's there when I'm riding or walking the woods, but it's definately there.  

I've never had the good fortune to face off with a wild hog (though the day is rapidly approaching).  I'd wager money that my magnum with hard-cast bullets will stop the biggest, baddest boar going.  It's all about shot placement, and that's all about practice.  

I've got bigger guns and smaller guns and I carry, use and love them all, but when I'm just cruising, It's the .357 every time.
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