Author Topic: .50 S&W Conversion (Read 498 times)

WoodyP · « **on:** November 19, 2005, 12:33:23 AM »

Just a pipe dream, has anyone researched the possibility of rechambering the .50 S&W to something like a .50-110? If possible and twist rates are compatible, it could make quite the boomer.
Woody

quickdtoo · « **Reply #1 on:** November 19, 2005, 04:46:05 AM »

That's been asked a lot, all the other .50 cals shoot .510-.511 bullets, the S&W's bore is .500"-501".

grendel · « **Reply #2 on:** November 19, 2005, 08:11:10 AM »

Don't see a problem that $ will not solve. Custom reamer that chambers the 50-90 or 50-110 (just might be too much of a good thing) with a .500 throat. Resize brass twice. Once in 50-90 (YMMV depending on if you used a custom 50-110 reamer), second time with 50 S&W to get the final shape.

Perfect? No. Would it work? I bet it would.

Grendel

quickdtoo · « **Reply #3 on:** November 19, 2005, 08:30:46 AM »

It's been discussed several times in the last year, but no one has done it and posted about it.....yet.....any volunteers??

http://www.graybeardoutdoors.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=65973&highlight=500+rechamber

http://www.graybeardoutdoors.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=47708&highlight=500+rechamber

grendel · « **Reply #4 on:** November 19, 2005, 09:04:54 AM »

Just bought a house. I'll try it as soon as YOUR check clears. :grin:

Grendel

quickdtoo · « **Reply #5 on:** November 19, 2005, 09:18:15 AM »

Hmmm, I personally don't think there's anything to be gained over the .45 cal family other than the uniqueness of the .50 cals, unless shooting black powder. There certainly aren't near as many bullet choices to be had for the .50. I rechambered a 45-70 BC to 45-120 which makes for some real jaw dropping by other shooters at the range and is a real hoot to shoot! The 45-120 rechamber was expensive enough without having to buy custom dies. Lee will make custom dies, but at $150-$200!! :eek: But if ya just want it, I'd be the last one to discourage ya!!! :wink:

grendel · « **Reply #6 on:** November 19, 2005, 10:17:12 AM »

Well a good chunk of the desire is just to have something odd for bragging rights. But a .501" dia 500g LBT WFN at 2000 to 2200+ fps (I have no idea what could be achived, that would take investagating first) would be a hoot.

Grendel

Quote from: quickdtoo

Hmmm, I personally don't think there's anything to be gained over the .45 cal family other than the uniqueness of the .50 cals, unless shooting black powder. There certainly aren't near as many bullet choices to be had for the .50. I rechambered a 45-70 BC to 45-120 which makes for some real jaw dropping by other shooters at the range and is a real hoot to shoot! The 45-120 rechamber was expensive enough without having to buy custom dies. Lee will make custom dies, but at $150-$200!! :eek: But if ya just want it, I'd be the last one to discourage ya!!! :wink:

quickdtoo · « **Reply #7 on:** November 19, 2005, 11:28:53 AM »

I think pushing a 500gr bullet to 2000fps in a Handi is pushing the limits of the frame, 2200fps is well beyond its limit. Both would be in .458 win mag/.458 Lott territory. The .50 Alaskan out of a 22" barrel is limited to 1800-1850fps with a .500gr JFP, about the same for a 525gr LFNGC. Ruger #1 loads for the 45-70 500gr bullet only go to 1800fps. Hodgdon 2004 Annual and Hornady 6th.

grendel · « **Reply #8 on:** November 19, 2005, 02:18:57 PM »

I did say it would take investigating. I might expect lower pressures from a 50cal 500g then from a 458cal 500g (if case sizes were about the same or larger for the 50cal) for the same reason that a 35Whelen can toss a 180g or 200 g bullet to the same or higher speeds then a 30-06 can.

Grendel

Quote from: quickdtoo

I think pushing a 500gr bullet to 2000fps in a Handi is pushing the limits of the frame, 2200fps is well beyond its limit. Both would be in .458 win mag/.458 Lott territory. The .50 Alaskan out of a 22" barrel is limited to 1800-1850fps with a .500gr JFP, about the same for a 525gr LFNGC. Ruger #1 loads for the 45-70 500gr bullet only go to 1800fps. Hodgdon 2004 Annual and Hornady 6th.

grendel · « **Reply #9 on:** November 22, 2005, 01:50:59 PM »

I have done a little looking but have been unable to find the case dimensions for the 50 S&W. Anybody got them. AIR the 50-90 is .663" at the rim and 2.5" long, I don't recall the base dia. What are they for the 50 S&W. I'll probably never do it but the conversion is an interesting idea. Because of the greater volumne of the brass I would expect pressures to run lower, for the same bullet weight and velocity, then for the 45-70.

Probably would be all the fun my shoulder could stand, or even more.

Grendel

jbtazgrabber · « **Reply #10 on:** November 22, 2005, 05:30:35 PM »

ok im getting old i dont like the kick anymore so ill take a 50 70 govt....id have one if i could find a right dia, barrel....still get a big bang and lots of fun....and it would be the only one??? ...jb

grendel · « **Reply #11 on:** November 22, 2005, 06:19:39 PM »

But if you had a 50-90 you could pretend you were Billy Dixon and play Cowboys and Mooselimbs. :grin:

Grendel
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