Author Topic: Forgot to add to the other poll (Read 1058 times)

Mac11700 · « **on:** November 10, 2005, 02:06:47 PM »

Durn it...I just looked again and I could have sworn I added the 26" Whelen barrel to my original poll..so as to not mess up the voting on it...here is another choice...and since Marlin is watching our forum here...it might not be a bad time to see which is prefered...so..here's your chance...

Mac

Mac11700 · « **Reply #1 on:** November 10, 2005, 02:33:42 PM »

My vote is for the 26" barrel...I want to get the most from my loads...and I really like the way the 26" barrels balance for me...

Mac

gstanfield · « **Reply #2 on:** November 10, 2005, 02:38:51 PM »

Ditto on that for me, I count one of the blessings of a single shot in that it will allow me to use a longer barrel without getting "too long" and the BC with it's 32" barrel is wonderful, I's have still bought it with a 34" or 36" barrel personally.

George

quickdtoo · « **Reply #3 on:** November 10, 2005, 03:00:03 PM »

I already have one, but I'd opt for the 26" in an instant!!!

mitchell · « **Reply #4 on:** November 10, 2005, 04:30:32 PM »

well when the whelen comes out i'll buy one just to play with but i've never been a big freak about it (always liked the 338-06 better) but i would probably like it alot more if it had a 26 barrel,

Fred M · « **Reply #5 on:** November 12, 2005, 04:44:32 PM »

Sofar only 21 people showed interest in the 35 Whelen. That is not much of show in hands. Myself I would never have one. It is too big for small stuff and too small for big stuff. The 35 Whelen has never set any sale records nor have any other 35 calibers. I am surprised that H&R is considering bringing out the 35 Whelen.

As it is most deer hunters are over gunned and take physical abuse from these big bores when all they hunt is deer. I am wondering what their thinking is? Is it to make up marksmansship by throwing big hunks of lead at deer? :lol:

quickdtoo · « **Reply #6 on:** November 12, 2005, 04:57:52 PM »

Give it time, Fred, remember, it's huntin season, lots of members haven't checked in for a while....including Graybeard his self!! :wink: I see the 35 Whelen as real popular on other boards as well as here. Maybe it's just not popular to true wildcatters!!! :grin:

lik2hunt · « **Reply #7 on:** November 12, 2005, 09:04:25 PM »

Well I voted for the 26" barrel. A lot more of the calibers offered by H&R I'd like to see in a 26" pipe too, heck, just about all of 'em. I see the Whelen as the perfect caliber to............................................add to my collection!

tom barthel · « **Reply #8 on:** November 13, 2005, 04:32:50 AM »

I think a .35 Whelen in 26 inch barrel would be great. I would still prefer a .338-06 in 26 inch length.

Tom

quickdtoo · « **Reply #9 on:** November 13, 2005, 04:39:43 AM »

:agree: :agree: :agree:

Varminter · « **Reply #10 on:** November 13, 2005, 01:23:11 PM »

If i can't have an original RMEF 35 Whelen, then i want the next best thing.....an Ultra 35 whelen. I've wanted one for as long as i can remember.

bajabill · « **Reply #11 on:** November 14, 2005, 05:25:39 AM »

I went with the 26 of course

Fred, most guns are not needed for the amount of hunting people do with them. I only hunt with one gun, all the rest are, well, just because.

Sourdough · « **Reply #12 on:** November 14, 2005, 09:15:22 AM »

Fred M: You said, "Myself I would never have one. It is too big for small stuff and too small for big stuff."

It's big enough for anything in North America. Lots of Grizzlies get killed with it everyyear, as well as Moose. Can't get much bigger than that, except Bison. And a few Bison fall to the Whelen during our winter hunt. Finally NEF is making a true big game rifle with the .35 Whelen. Lots of older hunters are carrying them on their TRIPS OF A LIFE TIME to Alaska. The recoil is manageable, and with the proper loads it is capable of taking down the biggest Grizzly/Brown Bear there is. No, it's not going to be making those 500 and 600 yard shots, but most hunters aren't capable of that kind of shooting anyway.

As for being too big: My son and his buddies like to shoot the 158gr pistol bullets with one of my .35 Whelens. Vertually no recoil. We are infested with Red Squrrils around my place. They are about the size of a chipmunk. The kids will go out and shoot five or six in the evening in the back yard. It teaches the kids how to shoot a big gun, and hit small targets. They really enjoy it.

Mac11700 · « **Reply #13 on:** November 14, 2005, 09:43:32 AM »

Quote from: Fred M

Sofar only 21 people showed interest in the 35 Whelen. That is not much of show in hands. Myself I would never have one. It is too big for small stuff and too small for big stuff. The 35 Whelen has never set any sale records nor have any other 35 calibers. I am surprised that H&R is considering bringing out the 35 Whelen.

As it is most deer hunters are over gunned and take physical abuse from these big bores when all they hunt is deer. I am wondering what their thinking is? Is it to make up marksmansship by throwing big hunks of lead at deer? :lol:

Well...there you go Fred...stirring the pot again

Really though... the 35 Whelen isn't the greatest cartridge every devised...but...according to what I've heard from the folks at their C/S department...it is one of Remingtons better sellers...not only in their limited run of Classics..but also in the pumps and autoloaders...and I really don't see anything that walks up in Canada..or down here for that matter..that with the proper bullets loaded for it...that it couldn't handle quite well from mild to wild...as the saying goes.....As to being over gunned for deer...well...I'm as guilty as most other people...since there are tons of deer taken every nite with 22 long rifles around the country..... :shock: but...combining flat trajectory for shots out to 450 yards and adiquate bullet performance usually require a bit more gusto than a 30-30...which has long been the standard for whitetail calibers :-D and for others... as which has already been said..that are 1 gun hunters...it makes perfect sense to them to have one...

Are there better calibers in our Handi's suitable for deer hunting...sure there are...but..not everyone has the same needs..wants...or desires..or hunting terrain.as other folks around the globe...and there will always be opposing veiwpoints when it comes to which is best...or better...or adiquate......

Mac

Sourdough · « **Reply #14 on:** November 14, 2005, 10:01:25 AM »

By the way I voted for the 26" barrel. I have one already, and would like the shorter barrel to fit on the handlebars of my snow machine/fourwheeler, but the 26 inch barrel would be more practical for other hunters. There fore that the one I think should be made. And if I had two, I would not feel so bad about cutting one off to the needed length. Maybe on down to 20 or 18 inches. I already have one .35 Whelen with an 18" barrel, but it's on a Mauser action. About two inches too long. I used the 18" barrel gun to shoot a Grizzly about 8 years ago. Bad situation, bear was too close, and smelled blood. One shot, dead bear. I can't praise the .35 Whelen enough, saved my bacon. Hunting in Alaska sometimes gets exciting, keeps the old heart pumping. When out with one of my .35 Whelens, I carry the gun loaded with 250gr Noslers. I also carry some cartridges loaded with 158gr pistol bullets, in the event that I run into something smaller. Sometimes while sitting on a stand a cayote, or wolf will come by and that way I'm ready.

warf73 · « **Reply #15 on:** November 14, 2005, 08:36:30 PM »

My vote went to the 26" tube.

I'm happy NEF/H&R folks are watching this forum. I hope they will incorporate some of the info we give out.

The 26" tube really needs to be an option for most all calibers available by NEF/H&R.

I'm drooling over the thought of a 26" barrel in a 445SM, if they had a tight a chamber and .430Â” bore.

Mac when will the 26" 308 be out

I'm ready for one.

Warf

Mac11700 · « **Reply #16 on:** November 15, 2005, 03:28:18 AM »

Quote

Mac when will the 26" 308 be out I'm ready for one.

It and the rest are being discussed by those at Marlin/NEF who deciede these matters...Having the option of a 26" barrel on all of them..makes perfect sense..I don't understand why it's so difficult for them to see that..

Mac

Fred M · « **Reply #17 on:** November 15, 2005, 08:25:43 AM »

Mac.

I love to stir the pot, that way I never win any popularity contests.

My old proverb goes like this and it applies to me too.

Quote

If you can't stand the echo, don't shout into the woods

I know you are a gentleman and always put your best foot forward.

DanielWGriggs · « **Reply #18 on:** November 16, 2005, 01:49:16 AM »

Let's see 4X6=24 so for every 4 26" barrels they produce they could have 5 22" barrels that is a 20% increase. Shoot that is like not having to pay federal tax on the money you bring home. Business :twisted: is in business to make money not necessarly a better product for the consumer or end user.

Yes I know that it is alot more complicated than my simplification but it makes sense to me.

warf73 · « **Reply #19 on:** November 16, 2005, 03:46:31 AM »

Quote

DanielWGriggs

Let's see 4X6=24 so for every 4 26" barrels they produce they could have 5 22" barrels that is a 20% increase. Shoot that is like not having to pay federal tax on the money you bring home. Business is in business to make money not necessarly a better product for the consumer or end user.

Yes I know that it is alot more complicated than my simplification but it makes sense to me.

This isnÂ’t the case, all barrels start life as a 26" tube (per other post Mac started).
I don't care how good a gun smith you get there is no way in hell you can wield the drop off from these 26" tubes when making 22" tubes i.e. you can't wield (6) 4" tubes to make a barrel.

So really there isnÂ’t any added cost if anything there is savings buy not having to cut down these barrels and then crowning them again.

Unless I miss understood Mac in his other post.

Warf

Mac11700 · « **Reply #20 on:** November 16, 2005, 04:02:31 AM »

You didn't misunderstand Warf...I have been told this by a few folks at NEF...the barrels come from Marlin and Green Mountain for our Handi's...some are finished at Marlin...the others are finished at NEF...and the tubes do start out long enough to make 26" barrels for every centerfire caliber... the Buff Classic and Target model is different...so too is the Rimfires...

Mac

quickdtoo · « **Reply #21 on:** November 18, 2005, 02:11:19 PM »

Quote from: Fred M

Sofar only 21 people showed interest in the 35 Whelen. That is not much of show in hands. Myself I would never have one. It is too big for small stuff and too small for big stuff. The 35 Whelen has never set any sale records nor have any other 35 calibers. I am surprised that H&R is considering bringing out the 35 Whelen.

As it is most deer hunters are over gunned and take physical abuse from these big bores when all they hunt is deer. I am wondering what their thinking is? Is it to make up marksmansship by throwing big hunks of lead at deer? :lol:

Well Fred, your poll at AR shows the 35 Whelen to be a real popular caliber with 2 pages of positive replies....one poster took an elk at 350yds with a 225gr Sierra GK...and using an H&R too.....albeit a model 300 b...b...bo....bolt action!!! :grin:

Fred M · « **Reply #22 on:** November 19, 2005, 04:32:05 PM »

Tim

Quote

Well Fred, your poll at AR shows the 35 Whelen to be a real popular caliber with 2 pages of positive replies....one poster took an elk at 350yds with a 225gr Sierra GK...and using

You have another 40 testimonials + 21 more here. This is not much of a popularity. There is nothing to it to shoot an elk at 350 yards with a few other calibers with the same sort of power with a heck of a lot more versatility than the 35 Whelen. The 06 is at the top of the list there are at least a million 06es out there and for very good reason it is by far the most used hunting rifle world wide and it will take any game on this earth.

Notwithstanding lovers of the round, the 35W is a powerful dead beat. Even the 338-06 is better but neither has ever come close to the versatility of the 06.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #23 on:** November 19, 2005, 04:42:55 PM »

You're a stubborn man, Fred.....knowledgable, but stubborn!!!

Mac11700 · « **Reply #24 on:** November 19, 2005, 05:58:24 PM »

Quote

Notwithstanding lovers of the round, the 35W is a powerful dead beat. Even the 338-06 is better but neither has ever come close to the versatility of the 06.

That's true enough Fred...but with the 35 Whelen and the 338-06...they can do a few things the old war horse can't...like throwing bigger heavier bullets a-lot faster...and flatter...may not mean a hill of beans to some...but others it does...and it's another reason to wnat a 26" bull barrel 30-06...then the playing fields are more level...since most 30-06's comes in 22" tubes as well...Opps :oops: ...if they did offer all the regular calibers that way...they might upset all the other rifle makers big time...cause then they wouldn't need all those SAUM's and WSM now would they...

Funny how things happen...I was just rumaging thru some of my older Handloader magazines...ran across the article in issue #222 April 2003 by John Barsness... with his 26" 270 he's getting 3350fps with the 130 grain SST's bullets in his..3285fps for the 130 Partitions..150 grain Hornady spire points at 3100fps...and the 140 grain fail safes at 3200...with the 160 grain Partitions at 3000fps...compare that with the book for a 22" barrel...and these are book loads he is using...just another reason for me wanting a good ole 270 with a 26" tube again..

Mac

Fred M · « **Reply #25 on:** November 19, 2005, 06:37:29 PM »

Tim
Yes you may call me that. Stubborn, justifiable unyielding. I am not offended. When you mummify an object and burry it. Exhumation is not bring it back to life.

All I am saying that many people that think they ought to have a 35Whelen would better served by an 06, and as it is the 06 has nearly ran its course too but it has never been buried. Like the 30-30 it keeps on trucking.

The few models of 35W that are being made are not earth shaking, and I concede there are certain places where it will be an ideal rifle, besides the lovers of the round.

I bought a used 350Rem Mag one time that little laminated carabin, it was one of the most vicious kickers.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #26 on:** November 19, 2005, 06:44:18 PM »

I wanted both the '06 and the 35W!!!

I spent some time comparing 350 Rem Mag and the 35 Whelen, the Whelen beats the mag by a small margin!! Recoil can be dealt with, not a problem. :wink:

danwolla · « **Reply #27 on:** November 24, 2005, 04:32:03 PM »

Given my own desires, I would like a 26" 338-06. But if the choice is 26" 35 whelen for 110/bbl, or 26" 338-06 for 400-450/bbl, the choice is easy, and it is the 35 Whelen. mostly, I just want to keep this post up front.

DakotaElkSlayer · « **Reply #28 on:** November 25, 2005, 05:36:32 AM »

I couldn't vote, but if I did the answer would be 26". That being said, I am getting one of the Whelens if they appear no matter what the barrel length.
For me, I think the Whelen would be a perfect elk cartridge. Many probably don't agree since there isn't a MAGNUM in its name.

Jim

mitchell · « **Reply #29 on:** November 25, 2005, 06:04:06 AM »

Quote from: DakotaElkSlayer

Many probably don't agree since there isn't a MAGNUM in its name.

Jim

THATS IT THATS IT, i know how to get every body to buy a 35 whelen we'll rename it the 35 WAGNUM!!!!!!!!

Poll

Which would you prefere

Author Topic: Forgot to add to the other poll (Read 1058 times)