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Offline slipshod

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« on: December 09, 2005, 02:41:23 PM »
I have a question about battery usage.I have a Magellan 315 gps.I am not sure what the owners manual claims but I know that a set of batteries will probably not last over 8 hours.I believe that Garmin claims that the Etrex will go up to 22 hours.If this is true I could actally sell mine(I have 2) and save some money on batteries theoretically.What do you think?Randy.

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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2005, 04:05:10 PM »
The Magellan 315 is an older generation gps.  The newer designs do not eat batteries as fast.  The new color model Garmins get very good battery life.  My 76C gets far more battery life then my Garmin Legend and I do not think the Legend is to bad.

I am a heavy user of rechargable batteries.  I play with my gps units a lot and would be in the poor house if I did use recharagbles.  During the last deer season I would place my batteries in the charger when I returned home, and put the recharged batteries in the unit before hunting the next  morning.  I had no battery problems and the gps was in service 12-16 hours a day.
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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2005, 05:49:57 PM »
slipshod:  After my first post I went back and read some old reviews on the Megallan 315 gps.  It appears to have come on the market in 1999.  Megallan claimed 15 hrs. of battery life.  Reviewers place battery life between 10 and 12 hours.

A number of things kill off batteries.  A couple are high back lighting, and continuos operation in areas of little or no reception.  I have noticed on a number of occasions that the battery life on my eTrex Legend is shorter when I spend a day in heavy over cover.  

Another common problem is that many users do not start out with fresh batteries because of cost.  One friend seems to always start out on old batteries and then have battery problems about mid day.  I do not feel sorry for him and his self inflicted pain.

I carry my gps in a small camera case with an extra pocket.  There is always two to four extra batteries in the pocket.  That way I have extra for my gps, flashlight or radio.

You need to look at exchanging the 315 magellan for a basic eTrex on a cost benefit bases.  A used 315 does not have a lot of value.  A review of 315 offerings on e-bay will give you a feel for the market.

I believe rechargeable batteries have been cost effective for me using both the Garmin Legend and the 76C.  Many times when I am in route two and from and hunting area I will have the 76C plugged into the accessory power source.  This is cutting my daily battery uses back to 8-10 hours from 16 hours.  While beating around the woods and knowing I can refresh my batteries at night I leave my gps on.  I like to create tracks on paper maps.  At times there will be gaps in the maps because of the lack of signal.  Those periods of times eat up batteries.  If I was on a extended trek I would leave the unit off most of time and just check when needed.
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« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2005, 01:31:36 AM »
Battery life has been my biggest complaint about my E-trex Legend.  I've bought an AC to DC converter that I plug in when working with the unit in the house......downloading maps....new routes etc. via mapsource.

I also got the cigar lighter cable for use in the car.  

A couple of nights ago, the local news ran a story about batteries and compared the Duracell, Sony, and Energizer E2 using digital camera's.  The Energizer E square took about 4 times the pictures of the other 2.   They ran the test twice, and got the same results.... I've always used Duracells but will be trying the Energizer E square in the GPS next.

I'm not sure the results will be the same, as the applications are different......

Question for Siskoui, I think you've answered this before, what type rechargables are you using......how does the operating time compare with a normal throw away type battery, and about how much would I need to spend to get set up with rechargables?
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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2005, 01:26:05 PM »
The first test series. I used a Garmin Legend gps. Garmin claims it will get up to 18 hours use from a set of Alkaline batteries. Batteries tested are Energizer 2500mAh which I bought a big box store for $15.99 US + tax for two boxes of four

The Legend uses two AA batteries at a time. The first round batteries where brought to a full charge two weeks before the test. The storage temperatures ran from the low 60's to 79 degrees. The trip computer was used on the unit to measure the operating time. The unit was placed on the dinning room table. Under roof and surrounded by tall trees the unit received from four to seven satellites.

At 13 hours and 40 minutes I shut the unit off because I was not going to be around. Later I turned it back on and it went dead at approximately 14:22 hours. It was receiving seven satellites at the time.

I then test a second set of the same batteries. They had been charged two days before. They lasted 15 hours and 54 minutes.

I then loaded freshly recharged set one. They lasted 18 hours when the low battery message came on the screen. I suspect I could have gotten a few more minutes out of the set.

I will continue to use these batteries in the normal course of events. If they hold up I will buy additional batteries

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:27 am    Post subject:      

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Yesterday was a battery eater! Granddaughter #3 and I went geocaching. The search was more complex then the normal one because we did one that required entering lat/Longs as we progressed into the tour. This kind of activity eats battery power.

The Garmin Legend gps was loaded with freshly charged with Lenmar NoMem Pro, 2300Omah Nickle Metal-Hydride batteries. These batteries failed after three hours of full time use. I purchased these batteries last fall. My impression is that Lenmar Batteries are not a good deal. I purchased two packages of four batteries. The failure rate is approximately 50 percent.

My Garmin GpsMap76C is still loaded with the old Rayovac 1800 Nickle Metal-Hydride batteries that I bought a couple of years ago. Admittedly the new battery saving technology in the 76C was a factor, but it's performance with the less powerful battery yesterday was over eight hours and the meter shows 50 percent remaining battery life.

My conclusion is that the Lemar brand batteries have not been a good investment. I have purchased Eight packages of four during the last couple of years and the failure rate is high. Compared to the Energizer and Rayovac brand batteries, which have not suffered a failure.

When things get serious I fall back on Alkaline batteries. While they cost more they will not suffer a sudden death in the field. Rechargeable batteries require attention. About 80 percent of the population have a hard enough time checking the oil in their car much less maintaining batteries. When I was on duty I had a 3-cell Alkaline battery flashlight along with my rechargeable StreamLight. I knew the rechargeable flashlight was great for 1/2 hour use then I would be in the dark. (old NiCad)

Dec. 11,2005

I copied the above from a couple of past post.  Easier to copy then having to think about it.  A few years ago I purchase an Energizer quick charger.  It will charge 4 NiMAh batteries in one or less.  The charger came with 12v car adaptor, a home electrical outlet adapter, and 4 AA NiMah batteries.  I believe current cost is around $29.00.  

The home adaptor gets 98% of the use, but I have used the auto adaptor while on the road so I know it works.  I believe the charger, and home adaptor, along with 4 AA batteries can be had for less.   Sam's club seems to be a little cheaper then wally world.
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« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2005, 01:26:46 PM »
The first test series. I used a Garmin Legend gps. Garmin claims it will get up to 18 hours use from a set of Alkaline batteries. Batteries tested are Energizer 2500mAh which I bought a big box store for $15.99 US + tax for two boxes of four

The Legend uses two AA batteries at a time. The first round batteries where brought to a full charge two weeks before the test. The storage temperatures ran from the low 60's to 79 degrees. The trip computer was used on the unit to measure the operating time. The unit was placed on the dinning room table. Under roof and surrounded by tall trees the unit received from four to seven satellites.

At 13 hours and 40 minutes I shut the unit off because I was not going to be around. Later I turned it back on and it went dead at approximately 14:22 hours. It was receiving seven satellites at the time.

I then test a second set of the same batteries. They had been charged two days before. They lasted 15 hours and 54 minutes.

I then loaded freshly recharged set one. They lasted 18 hours when the low battery message came on the screen. I suspect I could have gotten a few more minutes out of the set.

I will continue to use these batteries in the normal course of events. If they hold up I will by additional batteries

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:27 am    Post subject:      

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Yesterday was a battery eater! Granddaughter #3 and I went geocaching. The search was more complex then the normal one because we did one that required entering lat/Longs as we progressed into the tour. This kind of activity eats battery power.

The Garmin Legend gps was loaded with freshly charged with Lenmar NoMem Pro, 2300Omah Nickle Metal-Hydride batteries. These batteries failed after three hours of full time use. I purchased these batteries last fall. My impression is that Lenmar Batteries are not a good deal. I purchased two packages of four batteries. The failure rate is approximately 50 percent.

My Garmin GpsMap76C is still loaded with the old Rayovac 1800 Nickle Metal-Hydride batteries that I bought a couple of years ago. Admittedly the new battery saving technology in the 76C was a factor, but it's performance with the less powerful battery yesterday was over eight hours and the meter shows 50 percent remaining battery life.

My conclusion is that the Lemar brand batteries have not been a good investment. I have purchased Eight packages of four during the last couple of years and the failure rate is high. Compared to the Energizer and Rayovac brand batteries, which have not suffered a failure.

When things get serious I fall back on Alkaline batteries. While they cost more they will not suffer a sudden death in the field. Rechargeable batteries require attention. About 80 percent of the population have a hard enough time checking the oil in their car much less maintaining batteries. When I was on duty I had a 3-cell Alkaline battery flashlight along with my rechargeable StreamLight. I knew the rechargeable flashlight was great for 1/2 hour use then I would be in the dark. (old NiCad)

Dec. 11,2005

I copied the above from a couple of past post.  Easier to copy then having to think about it.  A few years ago I purchase an Energizer quick charger.  It will charge 4 NiMAh batteries in one or less.  The charger came with 12v car adaptor, a home electrical outlet adapter, and 4 AA NiMah batteries.  I believe current cost is around $29.00.  

The home adaptor gets 98% of the use, but I have used the auto adaptor while on the road so I know it works.  I believe the charger, and home adaptor, along with 4 AA batteries can be had for less.   Sam's club seems to be a little cheaper then wally world.
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« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2005, 01:20:46 AM »
Siskiyou maybe I should just go the rechargable battery route.I see that there are even more powerful battries than you are using.Right now I only turn my Magellan on to take a reading.I would like to leave it on all of the time so that I could look at my track on my Maptech program.What do you think?Slipshod

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« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2005, 05:54:44 AM »
slipshod.  Rechargeable batteries keep on improving.  I hated the old NiCads for duty use.  But the Nickle Metal-Hydride and the fast chargers keep on improving yearly.  For me they have been a good investment.  I find that I rarely use Alkaline AA batteries anymore.
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« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2005, 04:06:28 PM »
Siskiyou and others may find this site interesting: http://www.greenbatteries.com/batterycalc.html

I found I need to charge my batteries for my Motorola radios 20 hours if down all the way. That's 8 hours more than the NiCad batteries that came with the radios using the factory chargers. I now know to recharge the batteries every day when used so they'll be fully charged.
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« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2005, 04:29:43 PM »
Dave:  Good information.
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« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2006, 01:36:04 AM »
Siskiyou I think I have solved my battery problem.I purchased a Powerex charger and 4  2500 mAH batteries.Battery life is more than double with the rechargable batteries.Thanks for leading in the right direction.Slipshod

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« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2006, 12:52:12 PM »
Your Welcome:  I have been busy charging a bunch of rechargeables batteries.  With the winter storms hitting N. California I want to make sure and have my gear up to snuff.
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« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2006, 01:51:57 PM »
I bought duracell 2040 Mah Nickle Metal-Hydride right after christmas and they stay up about 8 hours.  Bought four duracell 2350 Mah and get about 14 hours run time with them......... I'm happy! :-)
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