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Offline rickyp

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« on: December 28, 2005, 03:23:39 AM »
I saw in the instructions that I can use the mapsource program for limited functions with my etrex.
Is this program any good?

It looks like I can transfer my waypoints and track to a map on the computer, Is this true

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« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2005, 04:24:32 PM »
The Mapsource program can be used to transfer waypoints back and forth with the Etrex.  So can a variety of other programs.  Make sure both the program and the GPS are set to the same protocol (NMEA, GARMIN, etc.).  Some programs only work with one protocol so check the manuals for both the software and the Etrex.

Is Mapsource any good?  In my opinion, the maps are low quality and completely out of date.  The only thing I use it for is to transfer maps to my GPS since the Garmin units that have mapping can only use Mapsource for this feature.  I use other programs to transfer the waypoints from the GPS to the computer since the maps are much better in other programs.  For hunting I use National Geographics State TOPO program ($100).   It uses the USGS topo maps.  These ar enot up to date either but out in the national forests and BLM land, they are still good to use.  The topo features in TOPO are much better than Mapsource.  For street items I use Microsoft streets and trips.  It has fairly up to date streets and other data ($40).
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« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2005, 06:39:38 PM »
I have to agree that the USGS State Series produces far better maps then Map Source and you can use it to tranfer waypoints and tracks.  BUT for those Garmin Mapping gps units you "must" use a MapSource product to load maps on to your Garmin gps.  No Choice.

I use the USGS State Series for my hunting maps.(paper)  When I play around geocaching I have been using the Garmin MapSource maps.  I normally print out a map after loading the Lat/Long for the cache.  It is just handy.

The Garmin Topo Maps and the USGS maps are not up to date.  Garmin and other software manufactures buy there base from USGS and then modify it so it will load on to their gps units.  As I have stated earlier, I get the most upto date Forest Service or BLM map for the area I am going to hunting for current road systems.  A common compliant by law enforcement and fire is the Garmin Maps do not show many campgrounds and other improvements in the Forest.  Many of these sites are on the software.  You can make the software work for you.  Lets say you are interested in campgrounds and other sites around Devil's lake.  With a Garmin Mapping gps map page up or using MapSource Topo software put the pointer or courser near Devil's Lake.  Then go to the POI option.(Points of Interest)  With the Topo software loaded in your gps many locations will be brought up in a list.  Example Devil's Campground.  Hit the enter button, and the following options come to you, SAVE, MAP, GO TO.  Hit the SAVE option and you have created a Waypoint for Devil's campground.  You might want to select the tent symbol for this waypoint.  For your basic eTrex or Mapping Garmin gps you can do the same thing using your MapSource Topo software.  After creating your waypoint it can be transferred to your gps.

Whenever you modify your waypoints or tracks using software, save your current waypoint list and add the new waypoints to it before loading them on to your Garmin gps.  Or you will lose the current ones on the unit when you up load your new waypoints.

I have created a number of tracks on my gps units and then downloaded it to my USGS State Series and DeLorme software.  I have been able to update the roads in some areas that I hunt.  When you hunt private land or some State areas you may not be able to find detail maps.  Then you become your own map maker.

So the bottomline is that the basic map USGS provides the gps manufactures is not up to date.  A few months ago a friend and I found a glaring error on DeLorme mapping products.  Outfits like the Forest Service, Park Service, and BLM have in house topo series that are more up to date.  All large maps have errors.  New maps are reviewed by many people but errors show up after they have gone to the printer.

Transferring data between gps units and computers has been complicated by the fact that many computers no longer have a 9-pin serial port.  They only have USB ports.  In the case of my old eTrex Legend I needed to buy an adapter to use it with my new laptop.
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« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2005, 01:54:09 AM »
I have map source and use it all the time.....any map that you buy today will be out dated the day after.  That's progress..........As a matter of fact, I downloaded yesterdays deer hunting logs yesterday.........If I'm going to hunt the same spot tomorrow, I'll print out the map with the track log and leave it for my wife, just in case I don't show up she'll know where to send someone to look for me......Don't have Topo yet, but plan on buying it to do just this......
 
If you have the basic e-trex you won't be able to load maps to the unit, but will be able to download waypoints, routes and tracklogs to show on mapsource.  I think you can upload the same.......
 
I'm not sure if you can create a route on mapsouce and download it to the e-trex, but I can and do create routes on mapsource and download the route to my legend.  This is a very nice feature........if you travel......Lets say I'm flying into Denver and have motel reservations at the local holiday inn.......I can build the route using mapsource and then download it to the legend....It's much easier to build the route on mapsource than on the handheld unit.
 
Would I buy it again?  Yes I would.....but I'm not sure how much of the features you'll be able to use with the basic e-trex.
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« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2005, 10:45:47 AM »
This is what I want to do:
While scoutting mark the scrapes and rubs to try and pattern the deer then mark places I may want to put my stands. then leave a copy in my truck so If something happens people will know where I am at.

with my needs I do not need a super accurate map.
I already have an old version of DeLorme topo and the latest microsoft streets and trips. would I be able to  to use one or both of these?

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« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2006, 12:59:06 PM »
Your DeLorme Topo USA should do the the job.  I have an older version, I think 3.0.  I have used this program with some success.  It appears you have what you need in the software world.  I have not used Delorme in a couple of years, but I used it then for work and hunting.
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