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Offline Brian in Oregon

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Marlin lost a sale - Bought 9422 instead
« on: January 14, 2005, 10:48:48 AM »
My dealer finally got in a Marlin 1897T.

I was extremely disappointed in it.

The checkering is rough, very coarse, and crude. It would have been better to have no checkering at all. My 11 year old daughter could have done better with a wood rasp.

The action was terrible. Made all the old Puma era Rossi's feel glass smooth. I could not have made it worse if I had dumped sand into it. Shocking that it ever got out of the factory. My dealer is sending it back.

I said to heck with it. My dealer also got in a Win 9422 16" Trapper carbine with a color cased receiver, 1 of 500. Glass smooth action. Nicely done checkering. Since I was looking for an 1897T or waiting for the 39TDS to come back out, I went with the 9422. It was less expensive as well. My kid was impressed enough with it that I just ordered one for him. He coughed up over half from his now drained savings for it.

And, the 9422 doesn't have a lawyer inspired rebounding hammer or crossbolt safety. Just an old fashioned half cock safety. Trigger pull is short, light and crisp., unlike the Marlin which was like running your fingers on the chalkboard.

Pity Winchester is discontinuing the 9422. I suspect it has something to do with them not being Commiefornia safety compliant. Winchester says they can't afford to make them anymore. Marlin sure isn't bashful about their prices, and is cutting a lot of corners, at least judging by the rotten 1897T I handled. You'd hope Marlin would stay on top of quality because of competition, but apparently not. It's shocking and disheartening that a die cast wonder like the Henry has a better action than the Marlin.\

I prefer traditional firearms, and the M39 and 1897 series are the only original design 22 leverguns still in production. I had passed on the 9422 and the BL-22 because of that. But I won't buy junk. I gave Marlin first crack and they blew it. (And note I'm a Marlin fan - have several in my collection.)

BTW, whatever happened to the old Marlin board? Makes me wonder if Marlin started getting too many quality complaints made in public.

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« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2005, 02:00:08 PM »
First off, I'm surprised your dealer could still find a new 1897T. I believe Marlin quit making them in 2003 and they seem to be rather scarce. I bought one in early 2003 and had some problems with it. Sent it back to Marlin, and for the most part they fixed the rifle. It still ejects like a weak sister. And yes, I've replaced the ejector spring, base assembly and the extractor. The best Marlin I have is a 1967 Golden 39A. I also have a 1897CB and 1897CL in addition. The Texan continues to be the worst of the lot.

The good news; when I heard the 9422 was going to be discontinued, I bought one. A Traditional model,(20" barrel, blued,etc). I was immediately impressed with the smoothness of the action and the fit and finish of metal and wood. A net friend  pointed me in the direction of the 9422's with the case colored receivers. So I bought a couple of the Trapper models you speak of and  one of the Traditional models with the case colored receiver. You, myself and my net friend account for seven of the 500. I'm thinking these were made as a special run for one distributor and probably 500 of each,(Trapper,Traditional, and 9422M). I'm very happy to have been able to get these rifles before they became extinct.

I've never handled one of the Puma/Rossi's, but otherwise am in total agreement with your post.

Hope you enjoy your Winchesters as much as I enjoy mine.

There is much speculation about the demise of Marlin Talk.

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Marlin lost a sale - Bought 9422 instead
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2005, 06:49:20 AM »
Gentlemen,  I too  have been looking for a good M-39a.  But you really stirred up my interest in this case colored win. 9422.  Where would a person lay his hands on one of these and is there a chance of one in a 17 hmr??  thanks  for  any  info. :grin:

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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2005, 07:23:29 AM »
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Gentlemen,  I too  have been looking for a good M-39a.  But you really stirred up my interest in this case colored win. 9422.  Where would a person lay his hands on one of these and is there a chance of one in a 17 hmr??  thanks  for  any  info. :grin:



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I have had 3 Marlins, what a waste of money.
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2005, 01:53:54 PM »
My first Marlin was a model 60 in .22 r.f., jammed every 3 rounds, sent it to a warranty station, the guy fixed it, but it looked like he had dropped it a few times as it had more scratches on it from when I left it with him.  He must have hated Marlin guns. :eek:    Then the gun started jamming again a few years later despite me cleaning it religiously and it having low mileage.  Sold it.

My next one was a Marlin Model 25 bolt action in .22 rimfire.  The bottom mounting screw kept shaking loose, kept getting one shot fliers, and the steel was soft where the bolt locks into the action, despite keeping it well oiled and greased, got rid of it.  I was amazed that the cheap sheet metal extractor worked, but it did! :shock:

My next Marlin was a Model 336 lever action in 30-30, had decent fit and finish but was rubbing wrong with the lever on the receiver, had quite a scrape of the bluing rubbed off.  It seemed to have wear problems inside the receiver as well, despite good care and little usage.  Sold it.

  At least I will say this for Marlin, their guns are accurate, except for the flyer in the Model 25, they do shoot pretty good.  I have been unhappy with the 3 Remington long guns I used to own, but man, Remington is way better than Marlin! :)

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Marlin lost a sale - Bought 9422 instead
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2005, 03:42:38 PM »
Fullchoke, well, you can add another color cased 16" 9422 trapper to your list. My 15 yo son got his hands on mine, and raided his savings and asked me to pick one up for him. We should have it in a couple of days. Last one this particular distributer had.

And today I just picked up a 20" straight grip in 17 HMR. Been wanting to try this cartridge out, and this gun was being blown out cheap on a special, due to WinUSRA discontinuing it. Receiver is blued.

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« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2005, 01:24:40 PM »
I like my Marlins, I have two rimfires bolt actions and two centerfire lever guns. But... the rimfire Marlins pale in comparison to my 9422.

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94/22 discontinued
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2005, 10:24:40 AM »
I can't believe any firearms are selling well considering how outrageous the prices are. If they would go for volume sales at lower prices, they should do better. Instead, they price themselves out of business.

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« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2005, 01:58:34 PM »
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Fullchoke, well, you can add another color cased 16" 9422 trapper to your list. My 15 yo son got his hands on mine, and raided his savings and asked me to pick one up for him. We should have it in a couple of days. Last one this particular distributer had.

And today I just picked up a 20" straight grip in 17 HMR. Been wanting to try this cartridge out, and this gun was being blown out cheap on a special, due to WinUSRA discontinuing it. Receiver is blued.
Brian..was just  readin threw and saw your 17 cal comment ..i SURE hope your rifle isnt a Marlin 917..i just bought 1 and have had nothing but prob.s w// the mag. ..it  is real sloopy fitting and  went you bolt a round unless your holding up on the mag  the round hits the bottom of chamber ..Marlin says its the mag latch the dealer says its the mag...so marlin is sending me 1 of each..sorry deal for a new rifle ..ya think?
david

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« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2005, 06:02:25 AM »
I have heard the reason Marlin and Winchester is discontinuing there lever action 22s is because the tooling they use to make them is wore out and it aint worth investing in new machinery to continue.The way they are made is by old technology,there machined ,not molded.It makes for a gun that last for hundreds of years ,theres no profit margin for that.

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« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2005, 03:34:56 PM »
Marlin is not discontinuing the 39.  Winchester is however stopping production on the 9422.  Stock up now, wont be long till its the next win. 69
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« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2005, 08:44:12 AM »
I'll take a Marlin rimfire or centerfire over a Winchester everytime. Marlins are assembled better and shoot more accurately than any Winchester I've fired.
You may get a dud from any manufacturer from time to time. But by and large the majority of Marlins will outshoot and outlast the others.

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« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2005, 12:55:20 PM »
A friend of mine had a new 39A and wouldn't shoot better than 2 1/2" @ 25 yards even with Green Tag.

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« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2006, 03:37:39 PM »
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Quote from: Brian in Oregon
And today I just picked up a 20" straight grip in 17 HMR. Been wanting to try this cartridge out, and this gun was being blown out cheap on a special, due to WinUSRA discontinuing it. Receiver is blued.
Brian..was just  readin threw and saw your 17 cal comment ..i SURE hope your rifle isnt a Marlin 917..i just bought 1 and have had nothing but prob.s w// the mag. ..it  is real sloopy fitting and  went you bolt a round unless your holding up on the mag  the round hits the bottom of chamber ..Marlin says its the mag latch the dealer says its the mag...so marlin is sending me 1 of each..sorry deal for a new rifle ..ya think?
david


For the money, the 917 is one of the best rifles I have ever owned. But the magazine, ugh, is junk. I have the same problems with mine. Other than that one d**n fine rifle. My best group to date w/ the 917 was three shots inside .61'' @ 100 yards. (that's with factory trigger) It usually is right around an inch though. Only groups I've shot better than that were with my remington 700vfs.

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Marlin lost a sale - Bought 9422 instead
« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2006, 04:39:51 AM »
I have maybe a dozen Marlins and can't find ANY fault with them. Then again I haven't bought any of them for about 10 yrs as I have too many guns already. Most of the guns I really enjoy shooting are between 40 and 90 yrs old and still shoot well, this includes Marlin, Winchester, Browning, etc. I don't think the manufacturers can make a profit now days to mass produce to the same quality they once did.

Isn't that the way with most American products? Funny how we'll pay 40k for a car made to less quality than the same model of 30yrs ago that was 4k then.